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1) put inner bearing in hub
2) slide large shim over axle all the way up to the back of the axle
3) slide axle/bone into hub carrier
4) slide small shim onto axle through hub carrier
5) push outter bearing into hub carrier

using that i'm able to put my normal male silverback gorilla wheel nut tightening job and there's no binding. in the pictures that come with the shims (the pic socket posted) it seems like they want you to slide both shims onto the axle before sliding the axle into the hub carrier and like i said, that doesn't work.



I've traditionally done the diff screw head on the left side (driver's side), but have since switched to the Right side (passenger side) regardless of transmission type (3 gear RM vs 3 gear MM and 4 gear MM).

Kdub (Kurt Wenger, former AE designer) had this to say on the matter:

Originally Posted by kdub
I think I count as an authority on the matter. I always run my diff screw on the right side (when sitting "inside" the car). I take off the tire and pull the outer hinge pin to get to the adjustment screw.

The right rear is the way the AE manuals state (or used to state). It really shouldn't matter since you go around turns both left and right.
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Old 10-05-2017, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by julieng
What about a b6d in dust / grass ? Will the spur gear survive without protection ?
The B6D and the B6 clubracer with the 3 gear tranny has a spur gear cover the same as a B5m. The B6 with the laydown doesn't but if you are running on dust you probably want the B6D or the B6 clubracer anyway.
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I just picked up a club racer on impulse. Hobby shop had a good deal but I am reading now I may have got one wrong for turf. But I will live with it, I am a B/C main sort of guy and not trying to conquer the world. I paid $330 and needed a motor/ESC anyways.

Oh well, I now ordered laydown conversion, gear diff and gullwing arms and tower.

I also got the 30g brass bulkhead and other than that was going to build and see what happens but the ball diff is my biggest wonder?

Who has run turf with the standup and ball diff might be a better question. Should I even bother to build this way or just put the new parts on?

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Originally Posted by Teamrule
I just picked up a club racer on impulse. Hobby shop had a good deal but I am reading now I may have got one wrong for turf. But I will live with it, I am a B/C main sort of guy and not trying to conquer the world. I paid $330 and needed a motor/ESC anyways.

Oh well, I now ordered laydown conversion, gear diff and gullwing arms and tower.

I also got the 30g brass bulkhead and other than that was going to build and see what happens but the ball diff is my biggest wonder?

Who has run turf with the standup and ball diff might be a better question. Should I even bother to build this way or just put the new parts on?
For turf, go ahead and build it with the laydown and and gear diff. You'll rip up the ball diff pretty quick. Laydown will help with corner speed as well as center of gravity which should prevent traction rolling.

Keep that ride height low (18-20mm) and get some stiff springs, heavy oil, and 1.6 pistons front, 1.7 rear. That should put you in a good place to start. Have fun!
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That's what I figured. 5000 good diff oil to start with?
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my b6 cva 65mm bones (stock) pops out of my outdrive whenever I pickup the buggy and punch the throttle (car without load)....how do I stop it from popping out? Do I need to get a longer cva bones like the 67mm cva bone?
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Originally Posted by Phillip F
my b6 cva 65mm bones (stock) pops out of my outdrive whenever I pickup the buggy and punch the throttle (car without load)....how do I stop it from popping out? Do I need to get a longer cva bones like the 67mm cva bone?
If you run the wider pill settings you need the ASC91605 cva shims. The MIP shims
also work. There was a whole debate on b6 nation about running the 67mm bones
without the offset hubs. I personally don't recomend it as you could hear them bind
at full compression. Some guys run them and have 0 issues.
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Phillip, additionally please make sure you are running the correct shock eyelets on your rear shocks, and that you have the proper amount of shock limiters inside the shock.
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Copying Neil craggs setup for the regional series caused my driveshafts to pop out. Running the ball diff it was not a problem but changing to a geared diff caused them to fall out due to it being 1.5mm narrower.

That's b5m shocks, geared diff, long eyelet, 3rd hole in wishbone, 28mm shock length, pils in centre all round, gearbox raised 2mm.
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Originally Posted by Mi4cxl
Copying Neil craggs setup for the regional series caused my driveshafts to pop out. Running the ball diff it was not a problem but changing to a geared diff caused them to fall out due to it being 1.5mm narrower.

That's b5m shocks, geared diff, long eyelet, 3rd hole in wishbone, 28mm shock length, pils in centre all round, gearbox raised 2mm.
You need the cva shims part# 91605
Long rear shocks, Long Eyelets without the Long rear Tower is too much droop
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Originally Posted by JsK
If you run the wider pill settings you need the ASC91605 cva shims. The MIP shims
also work. There was a whole debate on b6 nation about running the 67mm bones
without the offset hubs. I personally don't recomend it as you could hear them bind
at full compression. Some guys run them and have 0 issues.
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Phillip, additionally please make sure you are running the correct shock eyelets on your rear shocks, and that you have the proper amount of shock limiters inside the shock.
Originally Posted by Mi4cxl
Copying Neil craggs setup for the regional series caused my driveshafts to pop out. Running the ball diff it was not a problem but changing to a geared diff caused them to fall out due to it being 1.5mm narrower.

That's b5m shocks, geared diff, long eyelet, 3rd hole in wishbone, 28mm shock length, pils in centre all round, gearbox raised 2mm.
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You need the cva shims part# 91605
Long rear shocks, Long Eyelets without the Long rear Tower is too much droop
thank you guys.

I added the shims but it caused binding. I took the shims out and just lessen the droop from 27.5mm to 26mm. CVA bones stopped popping out.
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Originally Posted by Phillip F
thank you guys.

I added the shims but it caused binding. I took the shims out and just lessen the droop from 27.5mm to 26mm. CVA bones stopped popping out.
You had the smaller shim on the wrong side of the axle shoulder.
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Originally Posted by JsK
You had the smaller shim on the wrong side of the axle shoulder.
What do you mean? I installed the small shim in between the small outer wheel bearing and the wheel hub pin. When I tighten the wheel hub set screw it causes binding.
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Originally Posted by Phillip F
What do you mean? I installed the small shim in between the small outer wheel bearing and the wheel hub pin. When I tighten the wheel hub set screw it causes binding.
With a bare hub and assembled axle cva.
Insert the large rear bearing
slide the large spacer onto the axle
Insert the axle into the rear bearing, the large spacer should be on the outside
between the bearing and axle shoulder
From the other side slide the small shim over the axle
Install the outer bearing
install pin and Hex.
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Quick question:
+3 on the rear hub inserts, are the hubs sitting high or low?
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All this hub/bearing/axle insert crap is irritating. It’d be nice if they just made some stuff that worked with less screwing around. eg: if I buy some axles and I buy some hubs, they should just go together without any need for posting questions, or buying third party parts. Maybe their instruction sheets just suck?

EDIT: Sorry. It was early and I was CRANKY.
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