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jamr1130 12-29-2012 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by associatevalley (Post 11609192)
Jammr,
Did you just pull rctech rank on me!? Lol, come on bro this is a hobby thread on the internet. I understand people come here for serious help and we have a duty to promote our hobby but we live in america. WC can say whatever the hell he wants. If you have been biting your tounge for a over a year because someone doesn't follow your advice/opinion giving protocol you may be taking things a bit to serious. Put him on your ignore list and move on. Go turn some laps, have a beer, play with the kids, something, anything....

Precisely the drama I try to avoid. Well to reiterate my original post thanks to all those on this thread that helped me enjoy this truck.

Have a Happy New Year Everyone!

associatevalley 12-29-2012 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by jamr1130 (Post 11609248)
Precisely the drama I try to avoid. Well to reiterate my original post thanks to all those on this thread that helped me enjoy this truck.

Have a Happy New Year Everyone!

-INFINITE?

rippen 12-29-2012 09:34 PM

I guess I just appreciate every once of info I can get from the guys that have had this truck from the beginning and yes I started posting on this thread only a month ago, but i've been the quiet troll for alot longer then that.

CraigMBA 12-30-2012 12:31 AM


Originally Posted by associatevalley (Post 11608398)
If you've got haters your doing something right!

Cause, you know, everybody loves a fanboi - Who makes up his own rules of physics, and when proven wrong with cites, just argues harder that "a factory guy explained it to me that way". Really funny when the factory engineer tells him he has it wrong.

Just saying, but all that really happened.

associatevalley 12-30-2012 01:32 AM


Originally Posted by CraigMBA (Post 11609853)
Cause, you know, everybody loves a fanboi - Who makes up his own rules of physics, and when proven wrong with cites, just argues harder that "a factory guy explained it to me that way". Really funny when the factory engineer tells him he has it wrong.

Just saying, but all that really happened.

I understand all the complaints about WC, we all know they are aired almost daily. My point is....... He is not maliciously spreading bad info and he is not breaking any rules. You guys get all worked up and he loves it.... (These are just my observations). Fan boy or not he's got good intentions IMO. My favorite is " he types in broken sentences". Who gives a F*#&!!!

nolimit1 12-30-2012 02:27 AM

AE A.K.A WC
 
I race with him, and if it's not AE, LRP, Airtronics you will never be fast!! That's what he believe's and thats ok buy me. Don't let it get to you on this forum. You are the one's buying the RC equipment not anyone else. People always are going to agree or disagree, that the nature of it all. Learn, Live and be happy that we can race or play with these RC trucks. I am still fast no matter what I Drive!!

Wild Cherry 12-30-2012 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by nolimit1 (Post 11609967)
I race with him, and if it's not AE, LRP, Airtronics you will never be fast!! That's what he believe's and thats ok buy me.


I do tell everyone this , its the truth .....:D
o-MAN !


Craig
What this ?
No pretty horses for this morning ?


I really enjoy coming here to share with you guys the latest help from Ae & my
latest modifications with this truck ...:batman:

The ones who have moved on ?
Will be lapping you soon ...:lol:

CraigMBA 12-30-2012 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by associatevalley (Post 11609919)
My point is....... He is not maliciously spreading bad info and he is not breaking any rules.!

It might not be malicious, but it's often bad tech or just downright wrong.

Try searching this thread for "bad tech" and see what you get.

CraigMBA 12-30-2012 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by Wild Cherry (Post 11610680)


Craig
What this ?
No pretty horses for this morning ?

http://www.documentingreality.com/fo...o-comments.jpg

Wild Cherry 12-30-2012 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by CraigMBA (Post 11610809)
It might not be malicious, but it's often bad tech or just downright wrong.

Try searching this thread for "bad tech" and see what you get.

I never complain bout cute horsies pictures ...:nod:


Your advise is always pictures of pretty horsies, air hoses, cup cakes ...


not that I think they are bad or even brother me ...:)

rippen 12-30-2012 09:53 AM

Should I do away with the mud flaps, or do you guys run them? I was looking at T-bone front and rear skids.

Wild Cherry 12-30-2012 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by rippen (Post 11610923)
Should I do away with the mud flaps, or do you guys run them? I was looking at T-bone front and rear skids.

Flaps bring extra rear weight that can affect the handling .

suggest trimming the outer sections of the rear bumper off , just to lighten ...

CraigMBA 12-30-2012 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by Wild Cherry (Post 11610858)
I never complain bout cute horsies pictures ...:nod:


Your advise is always pictures of pretty horsies, air hoses, cup cakes ...


not that I think they are bad or even brother me ...:)

How do you remove mud from screws on the bottom of the chassis? Somebody asked, and I answered how I do it. Compressed air and a Vacula blow gun. It was on topic, and hadn't been mentioned, and was pretty innocuous. Here it is in case anyone would like to see it.

http://www.rctech.net/forum/11609870-post26522.html

I don't think I ever posted a cup cake, so your making it up/lying about it.

What is the problem? Oh, that's right, there isn't one except the ones you cause.

GraphiteChassis 12-30-2012 05:02 PM

Has anyone had problems with stripping spur gears recently, or ever? Only change I made recently is went to 10K in rear diff... stripped 3 in a row.
(32 pitch 62t, 13 pinion w a 4.5 reedy sonic 550)

imbsbiaoy 12-30-2012 06:10 PM

I use my body reamer to clean the dirt out of clogged hexes... works great!

Now for some questions / input needed:

I have the original sc10 4x4 that I have been running with the FT conversion and Maifield's exact setup besides not coupling the slipper.

Track: Super tight indoor clay, slightly rough with a lot of low, somewhat 'peaky' jumps.

Here are the problems I am having:
The truck seems pretty unstable when going over anything rough. The front end especially. It seems as if the suspension packs up when compared to others that I have driven / watched (many sctes). On smooth tracks, the truck is super fast and consistent. The biggest improvement I have made to the truck is moving the front lower shock mount to the inside holes, increasing leverage on the shock and making it absorb front impacts quite a bit better. The truck is fast when driven perfectly (currently hold fastest lap at the track), but hard to drive consistently. If everything is not downsided perfectly, the truck gets out of shape. I watch the losi's miscalculate jumps and slam through the bumps and the trucks stay so much more composed. It surprised me that people are moving to stiffer springs on the rear (front springs) and that maifield's setup (and just about every other setup I have seen) uses the stiffer yellow (mine came with blue, currently running yellow) springs on the front. On the bench other trucks feel much more plush (SCTE's and MIP/SCTE's). My 2wd sc10 feels great through the rough, also running maifield's setup... and loving it. Has anyone else encountered this? I have always seen people increasing spring rate on the sc104x4.... makes me wonder how the truck would feel with softer springs all the way around. The losi's just seem more plush and forgiving over every bump on the track. The sc10 4x4 seems to be almost rigid in comparison. I do drive in a cold environment, and have tried going to thinner oil (currently at 25wt all the way around) and removed on of the x-rings and did some shock work mentioned in this thread to make sure the shocks are perfectly smooth. I have made sure everything in the suspension is free of binds. Are people going to stiffer springs to help with stability while cornering? The truck handles the corners just fine, it's the rough sections that send it on it's lid that hurt me in a race.

I am also having trouble with the truck hooking and high siding on the track after a low speed double followed by a sharp turn. I have hit this double with a losi intentionally trying to get it to hook and flip... it won't, it just goes into a predictable slide. What is confusing is that the losi feels like it has more sidebite in the middle of all the other corners. Will the 7mm mod help this?

While the truck is super efficient compared to other 4x4 sct's, I am thinking about jumping ship and going to the losi. I drove a friend's losi with mip kit the other night and the truck felt SO much more forgiving over every bump and jump. If you cased or overjumped the truck, for the most part, stayed composed. I felt just as fast driving an unfamiliar truck in 3 laps, and not having to worry so much about perfect timing let me relax and concentrate on other aspects of driving.

Another problem is braking over bumps. Without a center diff, the associated will pack the front end on bumps. The losi stays way more composed when on the binders in the rough. Does anyone see associated copying the aftermarket again and coming out with a center diff for the truck?

My arms are slightly warped, but there is no biding in the suspension movement.

Has anyone gone to softer spring rates and had luck? I don't want to put more money into this truck if it is not going to help. The tekno or scte is looking pretty good at this time... especially when you add in ease of maintenance. Another friend at the track that has an sc10 4x4 has never won a main, but borrowed a fully modified losi and won for the first time that night. Once an associated lover, he does nothing but talk crap about the truck now:lol:

I struggle in 4x4 sc, against the same drivers that I am lapping in 2wd...


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