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Wildcat1971 07-30-2012 06:08 PM

lol, why are you people gluing stuff. L2 servo tape stuff, lol.

twisted 07-30-2012 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by Wildcat1971 (Post 11035342)
which esc?

castle mamba max pro

twisted 07-30-2012 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by Wildcat1971 (Post 11035370)
lol, why are you people gluing stuff. L2 servo tape stuff, lol.


yea CA and electronics dont mix.

9turn 07-30-2012 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by twisted (Post 11035313)
so i ran the truck today geared lower at 14/62 and the truck ran hotter. the 1410 got to 180* in 8 minutes and the esc was at 125.

i dont get it. nothing is binding, truck rolls freely. i have timing in the esc , only 10* would that do it ?

yea yea i know im still on the heat issue ;)

if that motor is any thing like the tekin it should be happy with a 15 or 16 on a big track if your slipper is slipping to much that will hurt the temps to try the currant or torque limiters less wheel spin lower temps and no need for timing 0

Wildcat1971 07-30-2012 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by twisted (Post 11035422)
castle mamba max pro

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I would turn off timing. The esc temp is fine

twisted 07-30-2012 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by 9turn (Post 11035436)
if that motor is any thing like the tekin it should be happy with a 15 or 16 on a big track if your slipper is slipping to much that will hurt the temps to try the currant or torque limiters less wheel spin lower temps and no need for timing 0

it seemed better temp wise with the 15t on it.


Originally Posted by Wildcat1971 (Post 11035491)
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I would turn off timing. The esc temp is fine

ill try doing that. i did read that the 4 poles do not like timing.

BlueGlowBoy 07-30-2012 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by twisted (Post 11035515)
ill try doing that. i did read that the 4 poles do not like timing.


+100!!! with 2x the poles on the rotor there is half the distance between poles...timing gets all messed up and you can actually hurt performance AND your motor.

Only use timing on 2-pole motors! Until an ESC comes out that is designed specifically to be able to handle timing advance for 4-pole or 6-pole motors....

Blitzrockey 07-30-2012 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by BlueGlowBoy (Post 11035771)
+100!!! with 2x the poles on the rotor there is half the distance between poles...timing gets all messed up and you can actually hurt performance AND your motor.

Only use timing on 2-pole motors! Until an ESC comes out that is designed specifically to be able to handle timing advance for 4-pole or 6-pole motors....

I wouldnt go that far I run for Hobbywing and have been doing some testing for them with boost timing with the new 3656 4000kv 4 pole using a xerun 120 amp. I started with no timing and it could have used a bit more top end for our track. So I put about 12 degrees of boost timing in it and wow does it ever haul now temps are about 125 after a 6 min race esc is 120 as well. smooth as can be and the motor seems to take well to timing. Now this may be different with different motors from different companies? But from my findings with this motor combo it works beauty.

MantisWorx 07-30-2012 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by BlueGlowBoy (Post 11035771)
+100!!! with 2x the poles on the rotor there is half the distance between poles...timing gets all messed up and you can actually hurt performance AND your motor.

Only use timing on 2-pole motors! Until an ESC comes out that is designed specifically to be able to handle timing advance for 4-pole or 6-pole motors....

I have been boosting my Pro4 4k for over a year now with no issues and on many different ESC's. IMO when they tell you not to use timing its static timing that can cause issues, if you ramp timing up higher in the power band you are fine.

ilanstylz 07-30-2012 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by MantisWorx (Post 11035959)
I have been boosting my Pro4 4k for over a year now with no issues and on many different ESC's. IMO when they tell you not to use timing its static timing that can cause issues, if you ramp timing up higher in the power band you are fine.

How much boost are you adding with your BH esc? I ran it in blinky mode with my 4pole 4k and it seemed to lack the power when I had it with my rx8....

twisted 07-30-2012 08:07 PM

hmmmm things to ponder.

Blitzrockey 07-30-2012 08:10 PM


Originally Posted by ilanstylz (Post 11035988)
How much boost are you adding with your BH esc? I ran it in blinky mode with my 4pole 4k and it seemed to lack the power when I had it with my rx8....


The BH is very close to the hw I run I use about 12 degrees of boost timing with my hw 4 pole 4000kv, and down the stright I will pull my buddys rx8 pro-4 4600 with no timing. I start the boost timing at 8000 rpm and it will ramp up as you apply the throttle this works beauty.

ilanstylz 07-30-2012 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by Blitzrockey (Post 11036010)
The BH is very close to the hw I run I use about 12 degrees of boost timing with my hw 4 pole 4000kv, and down the stright I will pull my buddys rx8 pro-4 4600 with no timing. I start the boost timing at 8000 rpm and it will ramp up as you apply the throttle this works beauty.

Thanks I'll try that, I am currently running the BH esc with HW 4000kv 4pole...... So as soon as the track in my area opens back up I'll test it out with diff. boost settings starting with yours......

MantisWorx 07-30-2012 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by ilanstylz (Post 11035988)
How much boost are you adding with your BH esc? I ran it in blinky mode with my 4pole 4k and it seemed to lack the power when I had it with my rx8....


Originally Posted by Blitzrockey (Post 11036010)
The BH is very close to the hw I run I use about 12 degrees of boost timing with my hw 4 pole 4000kv, and down the stright I will pull my buddys rx8 pro-4 4600 with no timing. I start the boost timing at 8000 rpm and it will ramp up as you apply the throttle this works beauty.

Thats exactly how mine is set!! Trick is to bring it in late.

AErckidd 07-30-2012 08:23 PM

Does anyone know which servo horn to use for a KO Propo steering servo? Thanks for the help!


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