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Old 04-17-2012 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by dekar058
Hey can anyone tell me which wheel hexes and rims are the best setup for the b44.1? Thanks for your help in advance.

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Use the JConcepts B4 hexes on the rear.
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Old 04-17-2012 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Yeti AS3
Use the JConcepts B4 hexes on the rear.
What about the front?
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Old 04-17-2012 | 05:00 PM
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It already has hexes on the front. There isn't any other ones that I know of
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Old 04-17-2012 | 06:30 PM
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You think AE will come out with their own rear 12mm hex buggy wheel? Seems odd they did the fronts for the B4.1 but no rears while both JC and Proline make fronts and rears.
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Old 04-17-2012 | 10:21 PM
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I am using Orion packs...

Here is what I do know, the screws that came with the kit that I used blue loctite on have either stripped out the head or have broken the cheaper tools I had purchased (team integy titanium nitride). In all cases I have had to drill out the screw.

Next up is the company not providing proper battery standoffs to fit available saddle packs. How hard would it be to make the posts longer? Hell it took me less than 30 minutes to cut 4 pieces of all-thread. For a kit that costs almost 400 dollars I feel this is unacceptable.

Then we have the central upper support which again I have to modify to fit the jumper cable. There is no reason they couldn't cut reliefs within the support for these from the factory to better facilitate all saddle packs. Again for the price I don't see why they couldn't do this.

Now to simply fix the problems associated with my kit I must purchase additional screws from them, more battery standoffs, make extensive modifications to the upper support, and probably replace the lower plate as it was damaged while removing screws.

I honestly don't feel like this was all user error as well. I have had many hours of experience building sports cars and off road vehicles. I work with tools on an almost daily basis. I followed the instructions and was careful to ensure everything was built to specification.

This is in addition to the minor issues I am having adjusting the front of the car to remove the binding within the steering. All in all I would say my experience thus far has been poor at best.
Everything you desribe seems to stem from batteries that are too tall. Instead of spending more dollars to modify the car how about purchasing a battery that fits? I believe 25mm is the tallest you want to run. As far as the front binding, did you install the set screws in the cvd's? They come with the kit but are not used. I know more than one person that made that mistake.

I have built four of these kits and never had any of the problems you describe. I dont think its fair to blame the kit. The only fault I can see is AE does not suggest a battery size in the manual. Also the suggestion to heat up a part to thin the locktite will save you a lot of drilling and broken tips.
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Old 04-17-2012 | 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by zipperfoot
Everything you desribe seems to stem from batteries that are too tall. Instead of spending more dollars to modify the car how about purchasing a battery that fits? I believe 25mm is the tallest you want to run. As far as the front binding, did you install the set screws in the cvd's? They come with the kit but are not used. I know more than one person that made that mistake.

I have built four of these kits and never had any of the problems you describe. I dont think its fair to blame the kit. The only fault I can see is AE does not suggest a battery size in the manual. Also the suggestion to heat up a part to thin the locktite will save you a lot of drilling and broken tips.
The set screws in the cvd's dont get used?
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Old 04-18-2012 | 05:27 AM
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You don't have to use the set screw. You could just use the snap ring with a dab of CA to keep the pins in.

I don't like that idea, so I use the set screws with a little thread-lock, and glue the rings just in case. lol, beyond that, I run Durango outdrive boots (packed with grease) that also help keep it all together.
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Old 04-18-2012 | 05:56 AM
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What wing do you guys use or like best for the B44.1, i was thinking of getting the Illuzion 6.5" Wide Hi-Clearance Wing what do you guys think about it??
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Old 04-18-2012 | 06:34 AM
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Here's mine from the Jconcepts Spring Indoor Nationals this weekend. 3rd overall qualifier in Open 4WD.
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Old 04-18-2012 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by D3mOnIcRc8e
What wing do you guys use or like best for the B44.1, i was thinking of getting the Illuzion 6.5" Wide Hi-Clearance Wing what do you guys think about it??
I run them. I don't know if it's the batch I got or if JC is doing it on purpose, but the hi-clearance wing seems to be made from a thicker sheet....which is good because I'm on my lid a lot
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Old 04-19-2012 | 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Tyler Keel
Here's mine from the Jconcepts Spring Indoor Nationals this weekend. 3rd overall qualifier in Open 4WD.
Very nice!!! Keep the pics coming guys!!!
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You think AE will come out with their own rear 12mm hex buggy wheel? Seems odd they did the fronts for the B4.1 but no rears while both JC and Proline make fronts and rears.
They have a front hex wheel for the B4.1 I am very surprised if they don't have a rear for the B44.1/B4.1 with hex's?? Hmm I'll look into that!
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Old 04-19-2012 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by forcewave
I've had nothing but issues since I finally recieved my batteries. First I have to extend the damn posts to make the batteries fit then I have to make space so the jumper cable between the two packs fits. I've still got suspension binding in the front end while turning. To top it all off I used blue loctite per their recommendation and I have broken 2 tools off trying to remove screws. Now I'm having to drill out screws I don't even have replacements for. I've put lord knows how many hours into it and still can't run the damn thing. So I've got a 1200 dollar paper weight sitting on my workbench. You can't even begin to imagine how pissed off I am, I baught what was considered the best for a reason. I can't sell the damn thing because I'd just lose money, and yet now I don't even want to work on it.
Sorry to hear you are having these problems. Firstly, as for those orion saddle pack batteries, you may have bought the wrong sized ones. I did the exact same thing recently, a hobby store sold me orion saddle packs that i thought looked too big for the B44.1, and they were, I returned them and purchased other orion saddles 5500mAh 90C, they fit fine.
And secondly, another thing regarding the blue thread lock. You only need the smallest dab when using it. Its not used to 'glue' screws in, but to stop vibration of metal to metal contact that causes them to undo. Again, ive stripped screw heads becuase of this too, now i know just to use a dab. And as suggested, use heat to undo parts with thread lock, it works.
You shouldnt have to modify any parts on the car, it works the way it's designed. Good luck with the build
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Old 04-19-2012 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by -WHEELMAN-
Very nice!!! Keep the pics coming guys!!!

They have a front hex wheel for the B4.1 I am very surprised if they don't have a rear for the B44.1/B4.1 with hex's?? Hmm I'll look into that!
Yeah I'm running the hexes on my B4.1. I really hope AE comes out with rears so I don't have to switch wheels completely.
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Old 04-19-2012 | 11:49 AM
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Hello B44 peeps,

I raced mod 2WD buggy for several years back in the old days of the RC10 Team / Worlds kits, circa early 90's. I got a lightly used B4.1 off this site and have been practicing a lot for the past 6 weeks. Surprisingly, my previous race experience really helped me get driving good again pretty quickly.

Now that I'm not a teenage kid and can pay for this hobby myself, I'm really eager to try 1/10 4WD buggy. I'm still trying to keep the costs down as I have a family these days.

What I really want to know is: If I can get a good condition B44 for around $150 vs a clean B44.1 for around $220, which is the better route ? In the long run, will that extra $70 really provide me with a better kit re-build and/or tuning performance experience ? Keep in mind this will probably be the only car I have and run for quite some time. I've read the differences and which parts are new and upgraded on the .1 , but have no real world experience with any recent car aside from the B4.1 ... which was quite dialed the way I got it.

Thanks!
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Old 04-19-2012 | 12:12 PM
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Hello B44 peeps,

I raced mod 2WD buggy for several years back in the old days of the RC10 Team / Worlds kits, circa early 90's. I got a lightly used B4.1 off this site and have been practicing a lot for the past 6 weeks. Surprisingly, my previous race experience really helped me get driving good again pretty quickly.

Now that I'm not a teenage kid and can pay for this hobby myself, I'm really eager to try 1/10 4WD buggy. I'm still trying to keep the costs down as I have a family these days.

What I really want to know is: If I can get a good condition B44 for around $150 vs a clean B44.1 for around $220, which is the better route ? In the long run, will that extra $70 really provide me with a better kit re-build and/or tuning performance experience ? Keep in mind this will probably be the only car I have and run for quite some time. I've read the differences and which parts are new and upgraded on the .1 , but have no real world experience with any recent car aside from the B4.1 ... which was quite dialed the way I got it.

Thanks!
The 44.1 comes with the LiPo specific chassis and battery tray (as well as having the option to run bolt on weight ballast. The B44 as-is has a tray for cells, and I think it's $20-30 to get the LiPo tray to upgrade, plus you still have the cell slots in the chassis, and the B44 chassis is wider up front. Not to mention the motor mount alone is worth the upgrade.

I would go 44.1 to get the dialed chassis, motor mount, V2 shocks, bleeder caps, and LiPo ready...

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