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Old 08-09-2011 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by gguertin145
Ok so I was already making them the same with a caliper... I guess where I was going is if the shock is longer or shorter based on how far you thread the ends on wouldn't that affect handling?
You are over thinking this. Just thread on all the way then even them out with calipers. All the way down is the standard but tolerances of parts vary.
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Old 08-09-2011 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by gguertin145
Ok so I am just trying to learn so please forgive any ignorance.

Why does it matter so much on travel inside the shock that we use limiters but it doesn't matter how long the rod ends are on the outside of the shock? I must just misunderstand how this works? I thought the limiters to prevent how far the shock can travel? So why allow the a-arms to travel that far anyway by having longer rod lengths?
Limiters or turns of the shock end are both ways of adjusting the down travel of the shock. The total length does effect handling. Limiters are set when you build the shock. Turning the shock end is a quick and easy way of "adding or subtracting" a limiter without tearing the shock down.

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Internal Travel Limiters / Droop / Downtravel
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(less droop/downtravel)
The car changes direction faster, and corners flatter. It feels generally more responsive.
Adding a lot of travel limiters is only advisable on smooth tracks.

Less
(more droop/downtravel)
Less internal shock spacers give better handling on bumpy tracks, and more and more consistent traction on difficult tracks.
The car also land better after jumps.

The end with the least downtravel will feel the most stable, and the most direct. But try to keep a balance (front and rear end droop about the same), especially on low-grip tracks.
Adding more internal travel limiters is a very effective way of reducing traction rolls, if not the most effective way.
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Old 08-09-2011 | 01:35 PM
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Thanks for the help!
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Old 08-09-2011 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by gregm
Limiters or turns of the shock end are both ways of adjusting the down travel of the shock. The total length does effect handling. Limiters are set when you build the shock. Turning the shock end is a quick and easy way of "adding or subtracting" a limiter without tearing the shock down.

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Internal Travel Limiters / Droop / Downtravel
More
(less droop/downtravel)
The car changes direction faster, and corners flatter. It feels generally more responsive.
Adding a lot of travel limiters is only advisable on smooth tracks.

Less
(more droop/downtravel)
Less internal shock spacers give better handling on bumpy tracks, and more and more consistent traction on difficult tracks.
The car also land better after jumps.

The end with the least downtravel will feel the most stable, and the most direct. But try to keep a balance (front and rear end droop about the same), especially on low-grip tracks.
Adding more internal travel limiters is a very effective way of reducing traction rolls, if not the most effective way.






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Old 08-09-2011 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by gregm
Limiters or turns of the shock end are both ways of adjusting the down travel of the shock. The total length does effect handling. Limiters are set when you build the shock. Turning the shock end is a quick and easy way of "adding or subtracting" a limiter without tearing the shock down.

swiped from http://users.telenet.be/elvo/
Internal Travel Limiters / Droop / Downtravel
More
(less droop/downtravel)
The car changes direction faster, and corners flatter. It feels generally more responsive.
Adding a lot of travel limiters is only advisable on smooth tracks.

Less
(more droop/downtravel)
Less internal shock spacers give better handling on bumpy tracks, and more and more consistent traction on difficult tracks.
The car also land better after jumps.

The end with the least downtravel will feel the most stable, and the most direct. But try to keep a balance (front and rear end droop about the same), especially on low-grip tracks.
Adding more internal travel limiters is a very effective way of reducing traction rolls, if not the most effective way.
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Old 08-09-2011 | 09:19 PM
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Old 08-09-2011 | 09:21 PM
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what gearing would u guys run with a 8.5 x-12 in a t4?
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Old 08-09-2011 | 10:13 PM
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ohh Cherry I would never say you're wrong, we all know that's never the case....
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Old 08-09-2011 | 10:23 PM
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Hopefully the body and chassis help "Finnish" the competition. lol.

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Old 08-09-2011 | 10:30 PM
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You run the limo at all yet Brad? PM if you want..why aren't you at the Nat's with the rest of our AE brothers?..LOL
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Old 08-09-2011 | 10:42 PM
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oh man, used epoxy and made braces with screws coming through and nuts on the other end, withen a lap it was 2 cars lol

I will try my aka thin tire glue, would you guys say fiberglass tape along with thin tire glue and what braces/? They were long braces but the epoxy broke so quick, i let it dry clamped for a day. UGHH i feel like a jerk changing my stuff between chassis.
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Old 08-09-2011 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by idrummerboy13
oh man, used epoxy and made braces with screws coming through and nuts on the other end, withen a lap it was 2 cars lol

I will try my aka thin tire glue, would you guys say fiberglass tape along with thin tire glue and what braces/? They were long braces but the epoxy broke so quick, i let it dry clamped for a day. UGHH i feel like a jerk changing my stuff between chassis.
your not the only one....even with the tire glue ive seen acouple break within laps...
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Old 08-09-2011 | 11:37 PM
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I have never broken one of mine....
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Old 08-09-2011 | 11:52 PM
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some guys can't glue tires either...just sayin'. I'm working on mine and I'm not scared
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Old 08-09-2011 | 11:59 PM
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We took a B-4.8 and did our best to break the thing ...
Moons shots , pole shots , casing jumps, ect ...

Finally broke it by going full speed down the straight into the cinder block wall...


We just glue her right back together with tire glue again .
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