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Hemi Killer 10-02-2011 10:41 AM

The way I learned was I had a friend that is very knowledgeable build one of mine. He handed it to me and said this is how it should feel. Then he made it too loose and too tight. He said anything in between is where you want to be. I basically just figured out the rest.

I think the hardest thing to learn was knowing when it was just right. Once you have that, its easy. Just adjust to get to that point.

Hemi Killer 10-02-2011 10:43 AM

Im sure this has been asked before, but I couldnt find it in the million pages of info.

will the sealed reciever box from the new RS Sc10 fit right into my FT chassis?

Also, I have the ProLine hex conversion. Is there any benefit to going with the AE hex setup?

mxracer458 10-02-2011 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by Hemi Killer (Post 9730536)
Im sure this has been asked before, but I couldnt find it in the million pages of info.

will the sealed reciever box from the new RS Sc10 fit right into my FT chassis?

Also, I have the ProLine hex conversion. Is there any benefit to going with the AE hex setup?

Some people say the proline kit is sloppy or loose,I have the proline kit with no issues

wrathfull 10-02-2011 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by Hemi Killer (Post 9730529)
The way I learned was I had a friend that is very knowledgeable build one of mine. He handed it to me and said this is how it should feel. Then he made it too loose and too tight. He said anything in between is where you want to be. I basically just figured out the rest.

I think the hardest thing to learn was knowing when it was just right. Once you have that, its easy. Just adjust to get to that point.

Yeah I want to have a ball diff, I just don't want to have trouble with it in my first race day. Will it really be that much of a difference?

Wild Cherry 10-02-2011 11:11 AM

Won't make a bit of difference if its your first race .:nod:

With time however , your skills will demand a ball diff as it delivers the best racing performance & traction compared to a gear diff..

CraigMBA 10-02-2011 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by Hemi Killer (Post 9730536)
Also, I have the ProLine hex conversion. Is there any benefit to going with the AE hex setup?

I posted this answer in this thread, but I'm going to repost it here verbatim because it answers your question, and I was unsuccessful getting anyone to do a thread merge. Post whore FTW!


Originally Posted by CraigMBA (Post 9696266)
I have both axles in front of me right now.

The Proline plastic is smaller flange to flange, it measures .395".
The AE plastic is larger flange to flange, it measures .472, the extra material making the hub wider.

The Proline axle is longer, 1.280".
The AE axle is shorter, 1.180". From the back flange to the roll pin is about .050 smaller too.

The AE axle has an c clip behind the outside bearing. When you tighten the wheel, the 12mm hub clamps the bearing between itself and the C clip, turning the inner bearing race into a crush sleeve. The Proline kit has nothing in there to keep the bearing from crushing itself, except for the outer hub making contact with the roll pin. One might be inclined to space the out of the Proline kit to make the front end wider by adding shims between the outer bearing and the 12mm hub. Take my advice (for what it's worth):

Don't. It won't turn free and it will destroy the bearings in a single race day.

My observation is the weakness on all these 12mm conversions is the lack of a crush spacer. The hinge pin runs right through the middle of the axle (that's what the relief in the middle of the axle is for) so there's no room for it.

You can chuck up a Jconcepts wheel on an AE axle with a Jconcepts hex installed. Retaining the roll pin will becomes the problem, because it's no longer captured by the hex. You could CA them in, it's might not be pretty, but it will work.

Here is a picture. The longer one on the left is the Proline unit:

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w...-32-29_319.jpg

As an addendum, you have more track width with the proline setup than the AE setup BEFORE you start spacing it, and it you want to space it out, you can't with the AE.

Hemi Killer 10-02-2011 05:39 PM

my Proline hex conversion felt sloppy after a few days. I raised the concern with the ProLine guys when they were here for a race last year. They gave me a shitty attitude about it, like Im an idiot for complaining about "wear" on RC stuff. The problem is it got sloppy after about 4-5 packs. It seems like the knuckles get rounded out. I wonder if this is why they sell replacement knuckles by themselves now.

for the record, it wasnt Gerrardo, he's always been really cool and willing to help out.

thanks for the re-post.

larsotra 10-02-2011 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by ShortCourseOnly (Post 9723140)
My family was also involved in Offroad Short course in the Midwest for many years. I have not found much of my full scale experience apply to my SC10 but the general stuff like which line to take on the track or general suspension set-ups may apply some. My kids prefer the RC version cause it is safer in their eyes.

yea im learning that too :D

sc10rr 10-02-2011 09:23 PM

the rs receiver box fits perfect! just put one on my ft sc10



Originally Posted by Hemi Killer (Post 9730536)
Im sure this has been asked before, but I couldnt find it in the million pages of info.

will the sealed reciever box from the new RS Sc10 fit right into my FT chassis?

Also, I have the ProLine hex conversion. Is there any benefit to going with the AE hex setup?


J-RO 10-03-2011 07:17 AM

Just wondering how much weight you guys are adding to the sc10's and where are you putting it mostly? Im running a tight track with lots of jumps, power means nothing but getting it hooked up coming out of the corners is evreything.

ShortCourseOnly 10-03-2011 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by J-RO (Post 9733779)
Just wondering how much weight you guys are adding to the sc10's and where are you putting it mostly?

I have added ~3 oz.

- F Ballast (0.7 oz) between front hinge pin brace and trans
- 1.5 oz. added int he back of the battery tray
- 0.5 oz. near reciever to counterbalance the ESC.

This works great for me with the 8.5 or 17.5 motor. It balances the chassis and helps to reduce body role with the proper shock settings. When you add weight you need to increase shock damping and spring rates. I still have adjustments with the LIPO in the battery tray to help with tuning for track surfaces. high bite I place the battery forward. On lower traction surfaces I need to shift the weight back.

Zac_with_no_K 10-04-2011 01:09 PM

I'm just wondering everyone's opinions on any changes to make to a brushless RTR to be a good racer.

It's completley stock.

Are there any adjustments I should make and what option parts and upgrades would be good?

Any advice really helps
Thanks!

Zac

20 SMOKE 10-04-2011 01:12 PM

not really you can get spring kits but if you see you only use blue or red fronts and grey,silver,green rears.just run it and make small changes to help it

Numburn 10-04-2011 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by Zac_with_no_K (Post 9739595)
I'm just wondering everyone's opinions on any changes to make to a brushless RTR to be a good racer.

It's completley stock.

Are there any adjustments I should make and what option parts and upgrades would be good?

Any advice really helps
Thanks!

Zac

The RS?

Tires are the biggest thing. I'm a huge fan of AKA tires so I'd recommend picking up a few different types depending on the tracks you run at. Soft Gridirons seem to be the most universal.

Not necessary by any means, but since you are just starting out it would be a good idea to decide if you want to convert to hexes before starting your tire collection.

I ran the original team kit for a long time with many wins. There really aren't any necessary upgrades.

mxracer458 10-04-2011 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by ShortCourseOnly (Post 9733803)
I have added ~3 oz.

- F Ballast (0.7 oz) between front hinge pin brace and trans
- 1.5 oz. added int he back of the battery tray
- 0.5 oz. near reciever to counterbalance the ESC.

This works great for me with the 8.5 or 17.5 motor. It balances the chassis and helps to reduce body role with the proper shock settings. When you add weight you need to increase shock damping and spring rates. I still have adjustments with the LIPO in the battery tray to help with tuning for track surfaces. high bite I place the battery forward. On lower traction surfaces I need to shift the weight back.

i have the ballast in front of the tranny,also just put in 10 grams in front of the rear block in the battery compartment


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