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Old 03-23-2011 | 10:15 AM
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Plus if you any, and I mean any gap in your glueing. When under full throttle air will enter the tire and become trapped. This will seriously effect how your car drives.

Venting is an important step you can not skip
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Old 03-23-2011 | 11:00 AM
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I dont think anything your wrote here is accurate.

Just for the sake of checking my facts before I wrote it on here, I double checked about 6 sets of rulux 1/8th wheels and not a one has a crack on it.

one set are at least 2 years old, knuckles, they never wear out

It's really a preference thing. You either like dish wheels or spokes.

I guess if you wanted to get technical you could bring in weight and rotating mass into the equation..

I would think the dish would be a little tuffer since it is one solid piece. I though most pros use dish because of this and including several other factors that I am ot sure of. I could be wrong...
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Old 03-23-2011 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by slash_me_up
I would think the dish would be a little tuffer since it is one solid piece. I though most pros use dish because of this and including several other factors that I am ot sure of. I could be wrong...
Dish wheels might be stronger and maybe more aerodynamic. As far as being more balanced, this would not be true.

I have some O'Donnells spokes and they're very tough.
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Old 03-23-2011 | 12:04 PM
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Who all vents their tires or rims? My aka wheels do not have vents. My proline recoils I just got also does not have holes. Should I vent or not? I am about to get off work and mount these suckers up. However If I vent I ned to go buy a leather punch.
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Old 03-23-2011 | 12:19 PM
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Here's a good jconcepts tire gluing video. Vent your tires.

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My wallet now hopes that the worlds parts won't be available any time soon after placing my first jconcepts tire order for summer outdoor racing. 3 sets of blue crowbows. 3 sets of blue hybrids. 2 wings and 2 sets of wheel nuts.
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Old 03-23-2011 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by slash_me_up
Who all vents their tires or rims? My aka wheels do not have vents. My proline recoils I just got also does not have holes. Should I vent or not? I am about to get off work and mount these suckers up. However If I vent I ned to go buy a leather punch.
I vent all my indoor tires on the rim and outdoor on the tire.

The theory is that if you are running where it will be wet at all, the spinning of the tire will let the water get out. Conversely if you are running indoors mostly, where your only real concern is dust punch the wheel to keep dust out of the inside of the tires and foams.

That being said you have to be careful when washing your tires not to get water in them if you only punch the wheels.

Either way will work fine and I see both all the time at whatever track I run at.
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Old 03-23-2011 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by slash_me_up
Who all vents their tires or rims? My aka wheels do not have vents. My proline recoils I just got also does not have holes. Should I vent or not? I am about to get off work and mount these suckers up. However If I vent I ned to go buy a leather punch.

Yes it is good to vent tires on off road vehicles and vent wheels for on road. Its a good practice to vent either by hole punch as said or drill 1/16" hole in the middle of tire on opposite ends!!
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Old 03-23-2011 | 12:36 PM
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.Also, don't store them in your car on a hot day.
Know where I store my Lipo's? In a a lipo sack inside of a 50 Cal Ammo. Can.

I'm not even playing with these things...

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I originally thought the hole punching idea in the tires was crazy, but when I ran in some very sandy dirt once, I noticed that the dirt would collect on the inside of the wheel. Since they were dished wheels, the sand had nowhere to go. If I had holes on the inside of the wheels, the sand would have made its way into the tire with no way of getting it out. With the holes in the tire, I don't have to worry about this as. Also, the 1/8" hole that is recommended by others on the board is so small that it doesn't compromise the integrity of the tire.

If I hold the car in the air and go WOT (thus making the tires balloon), I can hear the air escaping the ballooned tires when I get off the gas.
Ok ok. I think I'm getting you here Billy. Make a couple of small holes in the Rim itself (through what would be considered the hub cap) so it allows debris (sand / dirt) to exit the inside of the wheels when beginning to accumulate.

Then, punch a 1/8" hole in the tire (where Im not exactly sure) for air release to bring down balloning quickly. ------> regarding this: won't debris in turn enter the tires? I can't imagine sand and dirt trapped inside the tire camping out with the foams is good for business
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Old 03-23-2011 | 12:53 PM
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No holes in the wheels. Just punch 2 1/8" holes in the center line of the tire.

I can post some pictures when I get home tonight, if you like.
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Old 03-23-2011 | 01:00 PM
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how come squierel didn't vent?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA6JzukmqbE
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Old 03-23-2011 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by slash_me_up
how come squierel didn't vent?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA6JzukmqbE
Yeah, I see that Squirrel both belts (tapes) his tires and doesn't vent. Where vids from other racers don't mention taping but do vent.

Is Squirrel a racer or a basher?

Since I asked here, and with the amount of responses I'm going with the posts above.


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Yeah, I see that Squirrel both belts (tapes) his tires and doesn't vent. Where vids from other racers don't mention taping but do vent.

Is Squirrel a racer or a basher?

Since I asked here, and with the amount of responses I'm going with the posts above.


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I will also be venting my tires.
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Old 03-23-2011 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by schnellschnell
Yeah, I see that Squirrel both belts (tapes) his tires and doesn't vent. Where vids from other racers don't mention taping but do vent.

Is Squirrel a racer or a basher?

Since I asked here, and with the amount of responses I'm going with the posts above.


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Yes, you need to vent tires for off road due to air build up inside tire when air is restricted inside, you will loose traction b/c of ballooning not enough surface on ground.
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Old 03-23-2011 | 02:08 PM
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I dont know how the heck squirrel is, but I would not glue tires like that.

First off the rim and the tire should be cleaned with alcohol. I use rubber bands "see below" on the side I am glueing to ensure it gets a tight bond to the rim. And unless you want glue EVERYWHERE I would recommend getting some of the small tubing that fits into your CA bottle, That way the glue goes where you want it

Bands
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...unting-Bands-4

This guy mite know what he is doing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQEU7RSptdU
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Old 03-23-2011 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by per4m28
Yes, you need to vent tires for off road due to air build up inside tire when air is restricted inside, you will loose traction b/c of ballooning not enough surface on ground.
I officially am beating a dead horse here.

So far the consensus has been - for off road - to vent the tires with small holes. Also NOT to belt / tape the tires, which will let them balloon due to inertia when spinning fast.

Yet you mention ballooning causing poor traction. Are you specifically referring to air being sucked in and not escaping causing them to puff out? Or do you recommend belting / taping?


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