Mugen MTX-4
07-02-2006 | 09:37 PM
#5206
Originally Posted by Artificial-I
They snap like toothpicks and bind the suspension horribly.
07-02-2006 | 09:39 PM
#5207
Probably within 2 minutes for each one with pretty light taps against the wall. The other problem was there larger, so once you insert it , its pretty much completely binded the suspension.
07-02-2006 | 10:33 PM
#5209
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From: Bavaria, Germany
Originally Posted by GrandeGixxer
Kawahara-10
3Racing-8
K-Factory-8
Skyline-7
Sato Seiki-5
Thats the only ones I can think of.
3Racing-8
K-Factory-8
Skyline-7
Sato Seiki-5
Thats the only ones I can think of.
How about Monotuning? Guess you would give them much worse grades than Skyline as well?
07-02-2006 | 11:48 PM
#5210
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Originally Posted by stefan
That's really funny, since Sato Seiki and Kawahara are identical, made by the same company.
How about Monotuning? Guess you would give them much worse grades than Skyline as well?
How about Monotuning? Guess you would give them much worse grades than Skyline as well?
07-03-2006 | 02:04 AM
#5211
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Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 274
From: Cologne, Germany
Originally Posted by GrandeGixxer
Kawahara-10
3Racing-8
K-Factory-8
Skyline-7
Sato Seiki-5
Thats the only ones I can think of.
3Racing-8
K-Factory-8
Skyline-7
Sato Seiki-5
Thats the only ones I can think of.
Team X-Pack make very fine things. I would give them also 10 points like Kawahara.
07-03-2006 | 02:39 AM
#5212
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Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 177
Kawahara is the best out of all of them. Then I would go with the Shooter or Sato bits before I would go 3racing or K factory. Kawahara is a Japanese brand but possible manufacture in China. For sure the rest are all made in china. They are all CNC parts of similar quality. The only shocking one I have seen is GPM. Would never buy any GPM parts.
Problem with the option parts is that they just keep drilling out parts to make it lighter. No consideration on stress. The 3 racing pulley holder will deform within 30 mins! I have seen hollow shaft snap, lighten 2 speed snap...etc.
Problem with the option parts is that they just keep drilling out parts to make it lighter. No consideration on stress. The 3 racing pulley holder will deform within 30 mins! I have seen hollow shaft snap, lighten 2 speed snap...etc.
07-03-2006 | 03:43 AM
#5213
Originally Posted by kidDynomite
Good info Tom, you weight weenies might also want to lighten the spur gear housings. I always wondered why the pulley adaptors were so bulky.
Anyways, if you're intesested in some MTX-3 mods that you'd like to try on the 4, check out Arnaud Buffat article at:
www.rcinfos.com.
Go to "Techique"
Scroll down to "Competition preparation of the MTX3 Arnaud Buffat".
You'll need to Babelfish it (french to english).
What I thought was really cool was the dirt ejecting pulleys. They worked great on the Kawahara alum pulleys I tried 4yrs ago. I just don't like alum pulleys though. But after your run, you could see the crap coming out of the holes. Belts seemed to last a lot longer too.
I've seen factory guys in GP and EP, that have done tons of light weight tricks to their rides. Most of them you'd never even notice. And people think that they're totally stock.
Anyways, if you're intesested in some MTX-3 mods that you'd like to try on the 4, check out Arnaud Buffat article at:
www.rcinfos.com.
Go to "Techique"
Scroll down to "Competition preparation of the MTX3 Arnaud Buffat".
You'll need to Babelfish it (french to english).
What I thought was really cool was the dirt ejecting pulleys. They worked great on the Kawahara alum pulleys I tried 4yrs ago. I just don't like alum pulleys though. But after your run, you could see the crap coming out of the holes. Belts seemed to last a lot longer too.
I've seen factory guys in GP and EP, that have done tons of light weight tricks to their rides. Most of them you'd never even notice. And people think that they're totally stock.
will have to give them a go when time allows 
07-03-2006 | 04:15 AM
#5214
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Originally Posted by jaykay
I donīt like 3Racing. The quality is worse and the parts are not precise.
Team X-Pack make very fine things. I would give them also 10 points like Kawahara.
Team X-Pack make very fine things. I would give them also 10 points like Kawahara.
07-03-2006 | 05:15 AM
#5215
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From: Cologne, Germany
07-03-2006 | 05:36 AM
#5216
Joined: Mar 2006
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From: www.moorebankraceway.com
i also like these brands of hop ups:
Knack racing
five star racing
Hiro racing
personally don't bother with 3 racing it is shyt. the pulley adaptors deform, and all moving parts are of inferior quarity.
skyline is good, but i would only recommend it for non moving parts, and i also would noy recommend the large rear support for the radio tray, as it requires bolts, and doesn't have screws for the battery tray built into the support. subsequently it is annoying to attach these screws with glue, and they inevitable come loose.
my top list of option parts makers are;
kawaharra, knack racing and 5 star. equal pegging all parts are exceptional.
i had a major crash with my mtx4 where i bent the rear engine brace litterally into a "Z" shape!!!!!, yet my knack racing 4mm chassis is only barely tweeked. it rises up only by 1mm.
-hiro racing, good quality but minimal hop up products for 4
-skyline ok but not japspec
Knack racing
five star racing
Hiro racing
personally don't bother with 3 racing it is shyt. the pulley adaptors deform, and all moving parts are of inferior quarity.
skyline is good, but i would only recommend it for non moving parts, and i also would noy recommend the large rear support for the radio tray, as it requires bolts, and doesn't have screws for the battery tray built into the support. subsequently it is annoying to attach these screws with glue, and they inevitable come loose.
my top list of option parts makers are;
kawaharra, knack racing and 5 star. equal pegging all parts are exceptional.
i had a major crash with my mtx4 where i bent the rear engine brace litterally into a "Z" shape!!!!!, yet my knack racing 4mm chassis is only barely tweeked. it rises up only by 1mm.
-hiro racing, good quality but minimal hop up products for 4
-skyline ok but not japspec
07-03-2006 | 05:59 AM
#5217
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Thanks Alot
You Guys are the best,I wll go with kawahara. My uk supplier don't stock those parts for the MTX4, I will have to buy them from the States.Please let me know of a good supplier... thanx again Madbeat 
07-03-2006 | 06:15 AM
#5218
Joined: Mar 2006
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From: www.moorebankraceway.com
07-03-2006 | 07:07 AM
#5219
Originally Posted by madbeats
You Guys are the best,I wll go with kawahara. My uk supplier don't stock those parts for the MTX4, I will have to buy them from the States.Please let me know of a good supplier... thanx again Madbeat
4060 yen (20 pounds) for the chassis
1722 yen for p&h and paypal fee (9 pounds)
but it was sent to Australia p&h cost could be different for England
Pro shop Futaba
07-03-2006 | 07:56 AM
#5220
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Posts: 589
From: fl
Originally Posted by madbeats
You Guys are the best,I wll go with kawahara. My uk supplier don't stock those parts for the MTX4, I will have to buy them from the States.Please let me know of a good supplier... thanx again Madbeat