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Old 03-02-2012 | 09:41 PM
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frankie - check your PM.
Nikos, I have responded. Please get back to me. If possible I would like to talk on the phone as well. I have some more questions that might be easier answered by chatting!
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Old 03-03-2012 | 12:49 AM
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Hopefully someone can help a tad with tuning. Fairly new to SC racing, but have a few years of bashing under my belt.

I have a viper 10.5/esc combo. Recently I've been racing against the really fast guys running everything from 8.5-13.5 mod (mostly SC10s, which is what I run and the truck set ups are comparable) and I can keep up on the straits and through the corners without much trouble, but there is one sharp corner that leads into a double, and I seem to have trouble getting enough bump in time to clear it consistently. Track is high traction, medium sized and I was running 24/78, but recently started having climbing temps when they changed the track a bit, so I moved to 18/87 (stock). Same results with both gearing though. I have not played much with the settings outside the braking and run profile 2 and 8.

Can anyone offer up a suggestion on where to start with tuning the esc and/or gearing suggestions, so I can give these tekin guys a little more pressure.

Thanks in advance. And I searched, but there isn't much info here or on Viper's site concerning the 10.5.
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Old 03-03-2012 | 11:20 AM
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zZ - what are others running for gearing with a 10.5, that should put you in a ball park. Traction and chassis set up will have a little to do with it and so will how you drive the corner before that jump (keeping momentum up or not spinning tires). I would think profile 2 would be good. What other setting are you running on the speed control - maybe that can help a little.
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Old 03-03-2012 | 01:13 PM
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I found another issue with my Viper 17.5 that I believe was my fault. When I opened up the motor I took the rotor out and when I put it together again the magnetic force sucked the rotor back in and hit the sensor board. Two small components on the sensor board have broke off. They are rectangular in shape and solder to the board on each end. One is brown and the other appears to be black. Can I solder these back on myself? What do they do? Can I get away with simply bridging the gap on the board with solder? What would that effect?

I plan to order another sensor board. Was hoping I can fix this one before the new one arrives.
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Old 03-03-2012 | 02:05 PM
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Yep. No binding in the truck what so ever. I'll keep at it and update this thread with my findings. Thanks!
Hey, guys. Well I finally got my VTX10 to work as it should and it is very smooth and super fast!! However, I'm now having an issue when I first turn the ESC on. Sometimes the neutral green light blinks and the ESC beeps like it's wanting me to re-calibrate. I ran into this a few times last night at the track and I just did the calibration process so I could get on to the track. Am I doing something wrong when turning on the ESC? I just touch the on/off swith momentrarily. Should I hold the on/off switch longer? The problem was pretty random so it was hard to follow when and why it was happening. Any advice is much appreciated!!


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Old 03-03-2012 | 02:28 PM
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Just wanted to say I LOVE my VIPER setup and I will 10000% be kieeping it! It worked great today at the track, All the features built into the ESC were very helpful.

In response to my initial problem with reverse, I dont feel its as big an issue as I though it would be. I have been able to kind of drive around the problem by modifying my style a bit and just making different decisions when I go off the track. Overall, its working well enough and I dont think it will be detrimental to my decision, I will be keeping my Viper setup, which I love!

Thanks again, shout out to Nikos as well, he has been VERY HELPFUL!

Anyone have any good tips on the starting timing/boost for a 17.5 motor setup? As well as the slew rate? I have gotten it pretty good but some advice would be grand.
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Old 03-03-2012 | 06:00 PM
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I have a Viper R/C VST10.5t motor and a Novak Kinetic Spec ESC. My question is does the this series of Viper motors have an internal temperature sensor? The reason I ask is because I hooked up the ESC to Novalink and I looked at the temperature and it said the motor temp was 200 and the ESC temp was 120 during the last run I made.

I temped the motor and ESC with a temp gun while I was running and when I was done and the motor and ESC were both were never above 115. This was no boost and stock timing on the motor
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Old 03-04-2012 | 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by nikos2002
zZ - what are others running for gearing with a 10.5, that should put you in a ball park. Traction and chassis set up will have a little to do with it and so will how you drive the corner before that jump (keeping momentum up or not spinning tires). I would think profile 2 would be good. What other setting are you running on the speed control - maybe that can help a little.
I'm the only 10.5 that I know of. It is a family oriented track and the classes are more defined by skill than car/motor. The 13.5 guys and one 8.5 guy I talk to often are running in the 17/87 range and the only proprietary info they have handed me out thus far is that they have their motor/esc "turned up". So I was trying to level the playing field a bit.

I would say I'm fairly consistent with them in relation to the cornering, but they seem to have a tad more pep that allows them to clear the double (12' gap) and I seem to come up short 6"-12' each time
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Old 03-04-2012 | 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by frankiebonez
Just wanted to say I LOVE my VIPER setup and I will 10000% be kieeping it! It worked great today at the track, All the features built into the ESC were very helpful.

In response to my initial problem with reverse, I dont feel its as big an issue as I though it would be. I have been able to kind of drive around the problem by modifying my style a bit and just making different decisions when I go off the track. Overall, its working well enough and I dont think it will be detrimental to my decision, I will be keeping my Viper setup, which I love!

Thanks again, shout out to Nikos as well, he has been VERY HELPFUL!

Anyone have any good tips on the starting timing/boost for a 17.5 motor setup? As well as the slew rate? I have gotten it pretty good but some advice would be grand.

if you go back a few pages there is an in depth post on how to set up for boost
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Old 03-04-2012 | 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by nikos2002
If you are running an 8.5, even in a higher heat situation, the VTX10 will be OK. if you plan on running a 6.5 or lower in the future and only want to get one speed control - then yes, plan ahead and get the VTX10R. I have used a 7.5 in my 2wd with no issues of heat or concerns - if that helps. And remember, the fastest motor does not always win - the driver who can control it does..... I have seen a good driver with a boosted 13.5 beat drivers of equal skill with an 8.5 because the 13.5 better suit the track and was actually easier to drive fast.
Nick brings up some great points. I just got through with a race weekend where the average motor in 2wd buggy was an 8.5. Me with my lowly little 17.4 and VTX10 with a little programming magic won that main by 2+ laps, had more than enough nut for the short run up infield jumps, and enough insane electronically created rip to pull even the "latest and greatest other guys $129 motor" then I had everyone was asking me how I was so smooth with a 5.5
Control will win versus HP almost everyt time, unless you're racing guys named Tebo, Cavalieri, etc...
Also I tried driving a buddies 4wd with a different brand super programmable esc, was crazy trying to control it as it just wasn't as smooth......
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Old 03-04-2012 | 03:39 AM
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Double post, sorry!
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Old 03-04-2012 | 07:30 AM
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Put some more time on my copperhead esc this weekend. Got my replacement 5150 kv motor and replaced the tenshock i had in the scte i had been using. Runyime seemed to be ok in 8 min main whereas the tenshock 4600 seemed to dump my lipo shy of 8 mins......only issue i had was a cpl times after a slight crash the truck seemed like it shut off when it was set back on the track. Like the esc cutout for a cpl seconds then took off fine......weird but finished the main unlike i could before so overall the system is pretty good imo
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Old 03-04-2012 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by jordy-15
if you go back a few pages there is an in depth post on how to set up for boost
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I been searching and looking through this thread... I must have missed it. Can you link me to the page if you know of it?
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Old 03-04-2012 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ekim628
Here are some tips straight from the pros. Viper has released a 4X Cap module that can boost performance in your on-road and off-road vehicles. It gives you smoother power and stronger brakes.

Here is the part number 6VSPCAP003


Here you can see the module installed next to a VTX10R. This setup during track testing was 2 tenths faster in touring car 17.5 Spec class and brakes hit stronger and smoother



More tips to come so stay tuned!!!!
hello, i just ordered the r10 esc. i recently got a radiopost transmitter and ordered a hv servo. i would like to try the upper volt range adjustments for the bec and the servo. would i need this cap set up to assist with the power to the servo.

sorry for the question. i dont fully understand what these caps do and dont do

thanks
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Old 03-04-2012 | 04:22 PM
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how does the copperhead 5150 combo compare power wise to a tekin pro 4 4000 or 4500?
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