Community
Wiki Posts
Search
Like Tree5Likes

SC10 4x4 Thread

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-17-2012 | 07:59 PM
  #15196  
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 808
From: In a VAN down by the RIVER
Default

Originally Posted by coconut
Is anyone using the CC 1410 in the sc10 4x4? Is it good for the truck? And do you have to do any modification to the chasis to get the 1410 or the Tekin Pro 4 to fit?

I'm new to this brushless and lipo stuff and just trying to get the truck to run right. I'm still having the sudden brakes applied on its own during acceleration. I called CC today and the guy said that the motor(CC 1406 4 pole 5700kV) is not designed for the sc10 4x4. He said I need a lower kV. He also said that the battery is weak for my application. I'm using the Duratrax 5400mah 20c hard case. I was told I should be using at least a 40c battery.
Castle 1410 fits fine in the SC10 4x4 and works well. You most certainly want better batteries... I agree that 40c is minimum for 4wd SC.

Originally Posted by johnbugman
I see. let pull the housing cover off and give it a try. yes the problem i mostly have is the rear end comes around soo easy its crazy. i may have tightend the diff too tight and its not getting the action front to back. also i was running the old front diff fluid setup 30,000 in the front and 10,000 in the rear. im not sure that has any effect. I do know its the wrong setup for ball diff.
You can actually get the ball diff too tight??? I have the opposite problem... can't get it tight enough, it just slips like crazy when I get on it on the straight or for the big jumps.
Sofa King is offline  
Old 01-17-2012 | 08:10 PM
  #15197  
MantisWorx's Avatar
Tech Champion
iTrader: (28)
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 5,955
Default

Originally Posted by johnbugman
ok yes marcus the front wheels spin in reverse of the rears when i do as told by you. guess it is what it is. I have locknut pretty much bottomed out. It takes medium force to turn the assembly. how tight did you want us to run balldiff nut with spring washer turned around in instructions?
it should turn smooth and without that much effort, by watching your truck , it is too tight. I cant make the rear of my truck come around! and definately get that 30k out of the front, try 10k!
MantisWorx is offline  
Old 01-17-2012 | 08:20 PM
  #15198  
CoyoteSlash's Avatar
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,311
From: Portland, OR
Default

Originally Posted by MantisWorx
it should turn smooth and without that much effort, by watching your truck , it is too tight. I cant make the rear of my truck come around! and definately get that 30k out of the front, try 10k!
You were saying just to bottom out the spring, right?

In oddness of that spur wobbling I think I cranked down on it a turn too much but I don't pull wheelies, but my tires seem pretty ballooned on the ground, so maybe I should back off a half turn. hmm

(It still made a night and day difference, I just need to get it just right and magic will happen)
CoyoteSlash is offline  
Old 01-17-2012 | 08:28 PM
  #15199  
MantisWorx's Avatar
Tech Champion
iTrader: (28)
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 5,955
Default

Originally Posted by CoyoteSlash
You were saying just to bottom out the spring, right?

In oddness of that spur wobbling I think I cranked down on it a turn too much but I don't pull wheelies, but my tires seem pretty ballooned on the ground, so maybe I should back off a half turn. hmm

(It still made a night and day difference, I just need to get it just right and magic will happen)
I cant pull wheelies either but if the front comes up it almost instantly comes back down slow. The thing with John's truck is that it is extremely loose in the rear, it looks like he can barely drive it which is odd.
MantisWorx is offline  
Old 01-17-2012 | 08:37 PM
  #15200  
CoyoteSlash's Avatar
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,311
From: Portland, OR
Default

Originally Posted by MantisWorx
I cant pull wheelies either but if the front comes up it almost instantly comes back down slow. The thing with John's truck is that it is extremely loose in the rear, it looks like he can barely drive it which is odd.
How would you judge "tight enough" in any way besides the spring fully compressed? I know you're still thinking of a Monkey-proof way to do it, but would "clamping" it down tight then backing off a half turn sound about right? Or do it on a driving reaction basis? (obviously not going too loose) Mine works just fine, I just want to play with it a bit, and wonder if I should even bother.
CoyoteSlash is offline  
Old 01-17-2012 | 08:41 PM
  #15201  
Noumenon's Avatar
Tech Initiate
 
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 26
From: NWI
Default

Originally Posted by Nyk
None of the pro's ran the 4x4 class... I was there.
This is interesting. I read the report saying they didn't run. I understand that they can't spread themselves too thin but pro4 seems to be the most popular growing class.
Noumenon is offline  
Old 01-17-2012 | 08:42 PM
  #15202  
MantisWorx's Avatar
Tech Champion
iTrader: (28)
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 5,955
Default

Originally Posted by CoyoteSlash
How would you judge "tight enough" in any way besides the spring fully compressed? I know you're still thinking of a Monkey-proof way to do it, but would "clamping" it down tight then backing off a half turn sound about right? Or do it on a driving reaction basis? (obviously not going too loose) Mine works just fine, I just want to play with it a bit, and wonder if I should even bother.
well thats kinda tricky because it also depends on how old your spring is or if you have a V2 spring which is much stiffer (what i have). But i have accidentally run qualifiers with it slipping and there is no damage, talk about planted! you didnt get the rocket acceleration but it stayed put!

The only way to be absolutely positive is to either sell them with supplied springs or come up with another way of tightening them down. i have some belleville springs that im going to play with eventually but i have too many projects right now and my Laser machine arrived today! im so busy that i cant even fire it up til friday or monday!
MantisWorx is offline  
Old 01-17-2012 | 08:43 PM
  #15203  
CoyoteSlash's Avatar
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,311
From: Portland, OR
Default

Originally Posted by Noumenon
This is interesting. I read the report saying they didn't run. I understand that they can't spread themselves too thin but pro4 seems to be the most popular growing class.
From what I hear alot of the Pros think Pro 4 is a "meh" class. They don't think it should be IFMAR (Like instant No's when asked). I dunno. They even Ran Pro Truck instead of Pro 4. Just odd.
CoyoteSlash is offline  
Old 01-17-2012 | 08:46 PM
  #15204  
marksp's Avatar
Tech Regular
iTrader: (28)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 362
Default

Anyone know if this inline saddle solution for Exotek accomodates a RX8? Looks kinda tight.
marksp is offline  
Old 01-17-2012 | 08:46 PM
  #15205  
CoyoteSlash's Avatar
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,311
From: Portland, OR
Default

Originally Posted by MantisWorx
well thats kinda tricky because it also depends on how old your spring is or if you have a V2 spring which is much stiffer (what i have). But i have accidentally run qualifiers with it slipping and there is no damage, talk about planted! you didnt get the rocket acceleration but it stayed put!

The only way to be absolutely positive is to either sell them with supplied springs or come up with another way of tightening them down. i have some belleville springs that im going to play with eventually but i have too many projects right now and my Laser machine arrived today! im so busy that i cant even fire it up til friday or monday!
V2 spring huh. Hm.

Okay. Well too loose isn't bad, like you said, So I think i'm going to back off a half turn and try to get some of the balloon out of the Front. (from previous joke of ruining my Foams)

I ruined two Brand new Hazard Suburb's foams from 1 run the day I got the C-Diff. The Truck never left the ground but the back was pushing harder. (not even close to undrivable like the other guy's though. It was Fantastic) Just constant front balloon.
CoyoteSlash is offline  
Old 01-17-2012 | 08:47 PM
  #15206  
CoyoteSlash's Avatar
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,311
From: Portland, OR
Default

Originally Posted by marksp
Anyone know if this inline saddle solution for Exotek accomodates a RX8? Looks kinda tight.
That looks like it should be plenty of room, Mark.
CoyoteSlash is offline  
Old 01-17-2012 | 08:55 PM
  #15207  
MantisWorx's Avatar
Tech Champion
iTrader: (28)
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 5,955
Default

Originally Posted by CoyoteSlash
V2 spring huh. Hm.

Okay. Well too loose isn't bad, like you said, So I think i'm going to back off a half turn and try to get some of the balloon out of the Front. (from previous joke of ruining my Foams)

I ruined two Brand new Hazard Suburb's foams from 1 run the day I got the C-Diff. The Truck never left the ground but the back was pushing harder. (not even close to undrivable like the other guy's though. It was Fantastic) Just constant front balloon.
Actually you may want to tighten it so it doesnt "dif out" before you go loose, it can go either way. Its a fine line, are you on a high grip track? This is why i dont recommend polishing the rings and making everything super smooth like you would a ball dif in a buggy. When i get around to V2 this feature will be adjustable. the ballooning is normal for any car with a center dif my E buggies are the worst!

you can also use a super thick thrust bearing grease to aid.
MantisWorx is offline  
Old 01-17-2012 | 08:57 PM
  #15208  
MantisWorx's Avatar
Tech Champion
iTrader: (28)
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 5,955
Default

Originally Posted by Sofa King
Castle 1410 fits fine in the SC10 4x4 and works well. You most certainly want better batteries... I agree that 40c is minimum for 4wd SC.



You can actually get the ball diff too tight??? I have the opposite problem... can't get it tight enough, it just slips like crazy when I get on it on the straight or for the big jumps.
you need to shim between the thrust bearing and the rear slipper pully about .4/.5mm. This issue came up months ago when the basket first came out. some shafts are slightly shorter than others.
MantisWorx is offline  
Old 01-17-2012 | 08:59 PM
  #15209  
CoyoteSlash's Avatar
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,311
From: Portland, OR
Default

Originally Posted by MantisWorx
Actually you may want to tighten it so it doesnt "dif out" before you go loose, it can go either way. Its a fine line, are you on a high grip track? This is why i dont recommend polishing the rings and making everything super smooth like you would a ball dif in a buggy. When i get around to V2 this feature will be adjustable. the ballooning is normal for any car with a center dif my E buggies are the worst!

you can also use a super thick thrust bearing grease to aid.
It's high grip in the winter, and NO grip in the summer.
(almost too wet to dust bowl seasonally)

I'm using the Stealth Grease, so I'll get some of your Kyosho thick stuff. Yeah, It just was worse than before. (front ballooning) so I thought I was off on the Diff. I don't think tighter would be good only because I pretty much torque'd that B*tch down last time.
CoyoteSlash is offline  
Old 01-17-2012 | 09:10 PM
  #15210  
Mizchief's Avatar
Tech Elite
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 2,069
Default

Originally Posted by johnbugman
ok yes marcus the front wheels spin in reverse of the rears when i do as told by you. guess it is what it is. I have locknut pretty much bottomed out. It takes medium force to turn the assembly. how tight did you want us to run balldiff nut with spring washer turned around in instructions?
Instructions said till spring was compessed which was about as hard as I could turn with mini tire iron. I tried torquing it down with a socket wrench but stripped out my shaft threads.
Mizchief is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.