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Old 01-18-2012 | 09:21 AM
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Hi. Can anyone help me sort out some handling issues. You can PM me if needed. My RTR is all stock.

1. The truck will lose the rear end and spin around very easily with no power on, coming to a stop without brakes and turning the steering. Even on high grip surface. How do I stop the rear going out?

2. When powering down a loose surface straight, the rear breaks out and goes sideways too easy.

Will heavier diff lube in the front diff fix both these problems? What weight?
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Old 01-18-2012 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by roylo
Hi. Can anyone help me sort out some handling issues. You can PM me if needed. My RTR is all stock.

1. The truck will lose the rear end and spin around very easily with no power on, coming to a stop without brakes and turning the steering. Even on high grip surface. How do I stop the rear going out?

2. When powering down a loose surface straight, the rear breaks out and goes sideways too easy.

Will heavier diff lube in the front diff fix both these problems? What weight?


Buy new tires that work at your track and go from there ...
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Old 01-18-2012 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by CoyoteSlash
This is my Final version of my Sc10 4x4.
Coyote Team Sc10 4x4

I will now begin to horde excess money in preparation for the True FT Sc104x4. (Feb? I'll believe it when I see it)

Have you raced it yet ?
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Old 01-18-2012 | 10:09 AM
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Just got my sc10 4x4 today and relized that shocks, diffs,and some other pcs are pre-assembled. Since when did this happen????A brand new truck and I already have to buy rebiuld kits,gaskets and seals. For what so some JO Ceo can have a huge bonus when we are buying parts before we even turn the first screw. I have had it. I should send this thing back and them to stick it!!!What about my time to take stuff apart just to put it back together. I bought a kit for a REASON. Sorry just had to vent
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Old 01-18-2012 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by boborc
Just got my sc10 4x4 today and relized that shocks, diffs,and some other pcs are pre-assembled. Since when did this happen????A brand new truck and I already have to buy rebiuld kits,gaskets and seals. For what so some JO Ceo can have a huge bonus when we are buying parts before we even turn the first screw. I have had it. I should send this thing back and them to stick it!!!What about my time to take stuff apart just to put it back together. I bought a kit for a REASON. Sorry just had to vent
No need to send it back , just tap off the
shocks with oil (30w ft & 25w rear)

Also fill the diff's with oil as well (10K ft & 7k rear)...

No need to change the seals on the shocks yet, although Ae
did include extra ....
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Old 01-18-2012 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
No need to send it back , just tap off the
shocks with oil (30w ft & 25w rear)

Also fill the diff's with oil as well (10K ft & 7k rear)...

No need to change the seals on the shocks yet, although Ae
did include extra ....
Thanks for the set-up tips. I was actually thinking more of a 35w ft 30 r on the oils. I like to slow the shocks down a little. But I'am totally lost on what diffs viscosity to use will that be a good starting point?? med track,bumpy,loose and tight turns????
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Old 01-18-2012 | 10:26 AM
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boborc , the oil you are thinking of sounds great ....

Many use diff oil 7k ft & 5 k rear , but think you will like the first suggestion more betta.
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Old 01-18-2012 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by roylo
Hi. Can anyone help me sort out some handling issues. You can PM me if needed. My RTR is all stock.

1. The truck will lose the rear end and spin around very easily with no power on, coming to a stop without brakes and turning the steering. Even on high grip surface. How do I stop the rear going out?

2. When powering down a loose surface straight, the rear breaks out and goes sideways too easy.

Will heavier diff lube in the front diff fix both these problems? What weight?
Sound like you have your clicker set to free wheel off power. Try locking it down all the way so it full time 4wd. I had the same issue after building my kit. Most 550 motors have so much torque, they almost cause the wheels to lock up when you want to coast. Also try adjusting your speedo for zero drag break and maybe add a little throttle trim so it will roll off power easier.
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Old 01-18-2012 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by daderrtyone25
the viper esc and progauge is my absolute favorite esc to tune and program its super easy and u dont need a lap top. ive had just about every brand of esc and as far as tunability the viper is the best. As far as performance i prefer the havoc pro wit x drive or the lrp sxx v2 my viper i had the 10r would sumtimes just shut off on me for no reason once in a great while and it was annoying it was great when it was working though and it could have been from the servo at the time though for the price the havoc pro it best bang for buck
Thanks for the info. Can't seem to find many running the Vipers in 4x4. Some say the new Copperheads are powerful. I really like the idea of the progauge. Guess I will see if I get anymore input or I'll just buy the Tekin Pro4 4000.
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Old 01-18-2012 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Resqnu
I have posted on the viper thread but would like more info. Does anyone have any experience running the viper esc or motors in the sc10 4x4? A few guys say their new Copperhead combos are awesome. After responses from this thread i have pretty much decided on the Tekin Pro4 4000 motor with a mmp esc. However, I am very interested in the Viper VTX10R esc with the progauge. I know nothing about them and can't find out much info. Anyone have any experiences or recommendations as I plan on purchasing something soon.
I've been using the VTX10R with VST 6.0L on a small high traction indoor track and have no problems keeping up with the pro4 setups. Viper gives you plenty of adjustability and I really like some of the unique features, like adjustable motor and ESC temp cutoffs. Having said that, I have mine geared 62/14 and have yet to see temps above 145F.
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Old 01-18-2012 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Resqnu
Thanks for the info. Can't seem to find many running the Vipers in 4x4. Some say the new Copperheads are powerful. I really like the idea of the progauge. Guess I will see if I get anymore input or I'll just buy the Tekin Pro4 4000.
I don't know anything about the copperheads but I can say the Tekin Pro4 4K works really well in my setup. The fastest guys at my track run Losi's with Pro4 4600s and I have no problem staying with them.

I ran 60/15 gearing and may go up another tooth on the pinion.
On the MMP I ran 30deg of timing and started at 8K and fully advanced at 17,200rpm. I also set torqe limiting at 7. Temps were never more than 128F on the motor and the fan never came on the MMP.

Acceleration is smooth and quick and has plenty of top end.
Couldn't be more pleased with my motor choice.
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Old 01-18-2012 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by F_ME
I don't know anything about the copperheads but I can say the Tekin Pro4 4K works really well in my setup. The fastest guys at my track run Losi's with Pro4 4600s and I have no problem staying with them.

I ran 60/15 gearing and may go up another tooth on the pinion.
On the MMP I ran 30deg of timing and started at 8K and fully advanced at 17,200rpm. I also set torqe limiting at 7. Temps were never more than 128F on the motor and the fan never came on the MMP.

Acceleration is smooth and quick and has plenty of top end.
Couldn't be more pleased with my motor choice.
got a pic of ur truck?
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Old 01-18-2012 | 02:47 PM
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Hey guys, I have the Exotech and thinking about going to saddles. With a 550 can it seems like I would almost need the stick pack to balance the weight and that running saddles in line would make the truck much heavier on the left side. I think I'm most likely wrong on this seeing how many of you guys love the saddles. Could someone please explain to me where I'm wrong so that I can go ahead and order my packs and rcshox conversion.

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Old 01-18-2012 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MantisWorx
it should turn smooth and without that much effort, by watching your truck , it is too tight. I cant make the rear of my truck come around! and definately get that 30k out of the front, try 10k!
ok will do. just hate to tear apart a truck thats kickin so much ass! lol Its due for a rebuild anyway. stock hardware kinda rustin out. I am well aware diff fluid is wrong but the last time i rebuilt it was about 3 months ago and 30k was the go to weight to use. thanks for the advice.
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Old 01-18-2012 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
boborc , the oil you are thinking of sounds great ....

Many use diff oil 7k ft & 5 k rear , but think you will like the first suggestion more betta.
Yeah I'll probally go 10k f 7k r or maybe 5k r. Clueless on this because I have only had ball diffs in most of my 10th scales except I converted my T4 to a sc10 gear diff and I actually like running 20k in the rear on that even with tight turns. seems more planted comming out of the turns and sure footed on the bumps. But in my 1/8 scale I usually run 5k,7k,3k f,c,r. Any other things that are a must before I even start driving??? I was thinking of the chasis brace but the tracks I go to are almost always slippery so I'am up in the air about the brace what is your suggestion??
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