I find it hard to fathom you have to try...

Troll harder.

Blake: Just so I'm understood from my 'Douche'baggary';

What I mean by no help is none of us use that Speedo and thus will not be 'able' to help you. Not because we'd refuse. But programming, capabilities, troubleshooting knowledge will be non-existent here. "and" if something were to happen, you're out of luck for 3-4 weeks "IF" you can even send it back. 4x4 vehicles are hard on their electronics. I would pass on an upgrade or two and purchase a 'proper' ESC you won't have to worry about and can trust for years. The upgrades can come when the cash does.

No, as a consumer I'll turn my back on anyone that claims I should buy product X over product Y, just because said anyone claims (without base) that product Y is garbage.

Why is product Y garbage? Because you don't carry it? Because you don't understand it? Because you just like pumping your chest?

For the record, I don't run off brand equipment either. But I rarely purchase kits, powertrains or other electronics via LHS. Not when I can purchase at a sizable discount through one of the well respected online retailers. I know what I want and don't need anyone telling me otherwise.

Now if you would please, based on your vast knowledge, explain to the class, WHY that ESC is garbage?

Without base?

You know. You're right. I will tell someone a product X over Product Y. Am I supposed to lie and say both are equal? You read RC CAR ACTION don't you? One's better than the other.

Simply. People respect my opinion at Work. They ask "what do you think" and I tell them. I also quite extensively voice that it is 'my' opinion and typically both products are good. (1. being we don't carry crap) They never once have been upset. (queue in any time guys if that's not the case. )

That outlook is a key example of what is slowly going wrong in the world. I'm not going to travel past that, reason being you aren't worth it, Similar to how you don't find supporting anything local worth it.

I feel I have a very special place to answer this question being a Hobby Employee: Because there are levels of quality in this world, Similar to Humans. (I'll let you fill in that blank)

We have hobbywing products come in Daily. All DoA, Burned a plane when they went bad, Fried under the prop suggested (plane) or Car that the Motor that came with seized bearings. (examples off the top of my head) That Speed controller is designed under no standards, guidelines, or R&D. It is duplicated off another's and sold at Low prices because it is Low quality. The idea that because it was cheap, it's okay if it breaks is one of the worst business practices. It leaves the Company with no responsibility to their Customers. Who is going to try to send back something so much cheaper than Joe's product if they:
1. Don't know who to call
2. Don't know where you are.
3. Don't want to wait

The Chinese businesses bank on this. They sell shit. Battery companies in China dumpster dive quality factories who throw out cells that don't reach their specs. These chinese groups take them and wrap them, selling them as theirs. (That is a stone cold fact. I am not making it up.) All of this is designed to purchase, and when it breaks, you just buy another, It's too much of a hassle to get it fixed.

But you ask? You've seen warranties honored and great service. Yep! To have that one good story occasionally is great PR. Try that Gen-ace Topic on these forums. Compare that to the hate I experience in real life and it's amazing how many good stories you can be fed and believe.

Everything is made in China: Out of China comes-

Chinese Quality
European Quality

Vastly different, Vastly R&D, Vastly tested... You guess which one lacks in that.

I am speaking of this not on my opinion. But Hundreds of those who have had:
Brown outs and lost Planes, Cars, Boats due to the "Chinese DSM Receiver"
Melted Planes, Cars, etc, due to bad cell Lipo Fires
Kids upset because the Chinese RC Car they bought only sells parts online and these novice RC'ers who didn't know to check for parts avail. are now done with RC because of the bad experience and money lost
A friend who had one good experience with this 'crap' send them to buy all of it and they had the worst experience of their lives.

That's. What makes your opinion so sad... And that ESC such "Garbage".

Good Day Sir.

Sorry Thread. Couldn't leave it.

Goodmorning.

X1
Nicely put. Could not have said it better myself.

Good Morning USA.

Anyone using a Diff Conversion? Looking for some feedback. Should I buy the Garodisc or Diff conversion. I have the Garodisc now. I will race the truck this Wed for the first time with the Garodisc. So far they are working great tuning here at home.
Garodisc vs Diff Conversion?
Thanks
Rob

+ 1

and save some money to spend on something else

lets keep buying global, keep the economy global , import & export baby

I would buy from my LHS but the closest one is 1.5 hours away so it's not very convenient. They do have very good prices and cs though.

my LHS has a good supply of parts in stock. as for the hobbywing ESC and motors i would not use them. but some racers at my local track have them and say they work pretty good with no problems.

I literally have abox of burned out tekin ESC's along with a box of burned up Castles. I have been running hobbywing (orion,speedpassion) in both my SC and my e buggy with no issues. Now with that being said i tend to have hard luck with electronics. Look, you are going to have people that burn up every brand just use what works for you and move on. I know Tekin is good but for some reason i cant keep one longer than 2 weeks with out failure ,I have friends that have had the same one for a year, its just luck of the draw!! Guys if you really think that any of the boards on these ESC's are made in America you are mislead, and that also goes for the truck kits. Its a simple fact that an avg American makes more in a day than a laborer in China makes in a month. Hobbywing makes Orion and Speedpassion ESC's, i run Speedpassion software in my Hobbywing ESC's!!


Tshirts now available!!

http://rcshox.com/shoxshop/catalog/p...products_id=69

also new design for the ackbar!


and also for this month i have a special package deal for the ACKbar,Garodisc and pistons! save 10bux and i also upgrade shipping to priority!!
http://rcshox.com/shoxshop/catalog/p...products_id=67
http://rcshox.com/shoxshop/catalog/p...products_id=68

Also from this week on if you order the triple disc set it nos comes with a B4 disc to use on the outside to help control the rear, this makes the engagement softer for all of you basket users!



Almost all of the pre-orders have been shipped, and the rest should go out today! those who pre-ordered this weekend are scheduled to be shipped out fri/mon

Marcus please put all the latest n greatest stuff on my ride. Is the Ackbar that I orig ordered much different?

I'm gonna order a t shirt. and I want to put your pistons in my 2wd now.

Bro can you take it to PM PLEASE when you have a disagreement?

That's my spot too. If I need something, I'm certain to have to order it. If I have to order it, most of the time it's going to be from Tower.

BTW, that charger is 300w. I'm really going to charge at 2s a 20 amps. I would of bought this one:

http://www.rcplanet.com/Thunder_Powe...p/thp1430c.htm

But I'm not convinced charging at 30 amps is such a good idea. I don't know if charging at 20 amps is such a good idea.

But that would get rid of every other post! [/kidding]

I'm all for supporting my LHS, but that is a two way street. They need to support me. And the economics of how that business work these days doesn't lend itself to supporting racers the way it did 15 or 20 years ago because there are so many different models and running changes now. When the new one comes out, you're stuck with all the service parts as dead inventory because nobody wants them anymore.

From my experience, once you tell a customer "We don't have that, but we can order it!" you have lost a ton of value you bring to the transaction because the customer can usually go online and order it too. And when it's an hour and a half round trip to pick up a $5 item they are going to have to order anyway, well, it changes things.

I miss having Ultimate Hobbies ten blocks from my house. They had everything. My only regret is when I lived there, I worked so much to afford it I didn't have the time to race as much as I do now.