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MOmo 11-28-2012 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by SRW141 (Post 11487835)
moo

I'm not sure the 10.5 would have enough bottom end for jumps in a 4wheel. I think you oUlf have to be very smooth of a driver with a 10.5 to get fast lap times. You would have to give it a try. I run a v3 10.5 with 20 degrees of timing (red board) mod1 firmware, 26.5 timing in the speedo. 32/78 gearing. Plenty of punch for the jumps and speed is awesome on the straight. Keeps up with the 8.5's.

I wondered. Its not a very BIG track, indoor Clay. lots of guys are running the 7.5 or 6.5 and de-tuning them. We usually only have one really long straight where you need the power, and so far, the jumps aren't too technical. In fact, I was talking to the track owner and another racer about track design. They prefer faster flowing tracks to technical tracks with Big air.

I'm running this http://www.kyoshoamerica.com/Vantage...5_p_10218.html and I think my problem is the motor. It lacks the adjustable timing plate. partly why I want to go SP motors.


MOmo

sugs 11-28-2012 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by Cain (Post 11492121)
From what I have experienced going from tekin's 550 2 Pole motor to there 540 4 Pole motor, similar Kv's, the 4 Pole felt like it had a lot more torque than the 550 2 Pole. it ran slightly cooler as well from what I can tell.

From what I have been reading from people who have the 550 4 Pole motors from other brands, they run cool and with even more power than the 550 2 Pole and 540 4 poles.

The SP GT2.0 Pro does excellent with the Tekin Pro4 motors. What about the reventon pro makes it so it doesn't work with them?

Are there plans for a Speed Passion ESC that can handle these motors and maybe double as an upgrade to the Silver Arrow V2, similar to how the Tekin RX8 can handle both areas with a somewhat reasonable size?

Yup, my understanding as well. Plus a 4 pole 540 can be much lighter than a 2 pole 550 with similar power. I think someone should try testing the new reventon pro in blinky mode with a 4 pole motor. I have read on some other manufacturers threads that have had issues with 4 pole motors, when the esc was put into blinky mode they ran fine. I'm assuming the reventon pro can run in blinky?

subaru_tech 11-28-2012 06:57 PM

can anyone explain how to update just the lcd card.
i did download the latest pc software .pc
when i hook up the lcd-esc-pc states lcd is v2.1
the lcd manual doesnt state how to update card.and i didnt see that choice on pc program.

See 11-28-2012 08:01 PM


Originally Posted by subaru_tech (Post 11494050)
can anyone explain how to update just the lcd card.
i did download the latest pc software .pc
when i hook up the lcd-esc-pc states lcd is v2.1
the lcd manual doesnt state how to update card.and i didnt see that choice on pc program.

Hold the reset button on the card when you plug it in.

subaru_tech 11-28-2012 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by See (Post 11494283)
Hold the reset button on the card when you plug it in.

thank you very much.
i did read about v or r .but not to do as you direct.

subaru_tech 11-28-2012 08:24 PM

so i was able to update the lcd card to v2.5 and esc to mod2-v18.
but it doesnt give me the 1% adjustments.

RCmayor 11-28-2012 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by subaru_tech (Post 11494377)
so i was able to update the lcd card to v2.5 and esc to mod2-v18.
but it doesnt give me the 1% adjustments.

It's under custom.

See 11-28-2012 08:34 PM

I beleive the 1% incriments can only be done on the pc not with just the card.

subaru_tech 11-28-2012 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by See (Post 11494401)
I beleive the 1% incriments can only be done on the pc not with just the card.

tried it both ways (pc)and(card).

See 11-28-2012 08:44 PM

I just hooked mine up to check and I can adjust in 1% incriments on the pc but not with just the card. When you are looking at the drag brake setting in the program does it show a drop down box that says custom?

kwiksi 11-29-2012 04:29 AM


Originally Posted by subaru_tech (Post 11494377)
so i was able to update the lcd card to v2.5 and esc to mod2-v18.
but it doesnt give me the 1% adjustments.

You need to d/l v20.

See 11-29-2012 06:41 AM

kwiksi is correct you need to be running v20.

Cain 11-29-2012 07:27 AM


Originally Posted by sugs (Post 11494010)
Yup, my understanding as well. Plus a 4 pole 540 can be much lighter than a 2 pole 550 with similar power. I think someone should try testing the new reventon pro in blinky mode with a 4 pole motor. I have read on some other manufacturers threads that have had issues with 4 pole motors, when the esc was put into blinky mode they ran fine. I'm assuming the reventon pro can run in blinky?

I can probably do that, I have a buddy who has the Reventon Pro in his SC10 4x4 with a Tekin SCX 4.5 550. I'll have a 4000Kv Pro4 for sure to test out of my car, and maybe a 4600kv Pro4 to try, both tekin's.

On the GT2.0 Pros, I was using the stock profile initially and just turning down whatever boost features I didn't want. Then, added in about 5 degrees of turbo for top end speed. Worked excellent and temps were low. I did put in the blinky to try, and it worked, just was not as powerful of course as the stock profile. I am going to use the Mod profile though from now on so its a bit safer than the stock one.

For the Reventon test, I just need to know if it will burn up anything before I try it.

Snafujg 11-29-2012 08:22 AM

Has anyone seen any brownout issues with their Silver Arrow ESC/Savox combos? I know many others have issues with the savox servos with other ESC's. I got a SAII for my DEX408 and now need a servo. I run Savox servo's in all my other trucks (SCTE with a RX8 / SC10 with a Brushless Hobbies 80A) so I want to stick with Savox for this truck. Just wondering if I'm going to have any brownout issues

Solara 11-29-2012 08:23 AM


Originally Posted by Cain (Post 11492121)
From what I have experienced going from tekin's 550 2 Pole motor to there 540 4 Pole motor, similar Kv's, the 4 Pole felt like it had a lot more torque than the 550 2 Pole. it ran slightly cooler as well from what I can tell.

From what I have been reading from people who have the 550 4 Pole motors from other brands, they run cool and with even more power than the 550 2 Pole and 540 4 poles.

The SP GT2.0 Pro does excellent with the Tekin Pro4 motors. What about the reventon pro makes it so it doesn't work with them?

Are there plans for a Speed Passion ESC that can handle these motors and maybe double as an upgrade to the Silver Arrow V2, similar to how the Tekin RX8 can handle both areas with a somewhat reasonable size?

The new BLAZE motor will do just more...(550 2 poles)...I will try to make a video this weekend STATE RACE....I have couple of the LOSI SCTE (probably the heaviest SCT in the market) are all using this motor...vs others with PRO4 or TenShocks....last week, my driver's SCTE with this motor, is the ONLY SCT 4x4 that can make the quat.....that only 1/8th E-buggy with 4 cells powered can do. Others SCT can only settle with double double or triple single...

Motor was used with boost software...Reventon PRO STOCK1....5 minutes racing, 160*, no fans on motor. Track is about 125 x 275. Indoor hard clay.

We will do more hard testing this weekend....

Silver Arrow is for 3-4 cells use....for 1/8th E buggy, no reason to use that ESC on 2S powered SCT 4x4.


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