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schbat 05-08-2011 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by sc10rr (Post 9077719)
Im kind of confused on the gearing in a sc10. i have a novak gtb with the 8.5 viper motor and run 20/87. on most of the setup sheet from ae the team drivers are running 87 spur gears but most of what i read us regular racers are running a 84 spur gear. on comeseethis gearing chart it shows that 20/84 would be a good starting point with a 8.5 motor. so after reading way too much and confusing myself, im looking for a little guidance on what works good and keeps temps down.

Im needing help keeping temps down too. I have the same gear set except i have a vtx10. im getting temps in the 140*-150* range :nod:

Dlewis4 05-08-2011 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by smokinu (Post 9080771)
yup

Our 550 cans are moving to production not even team members have them unless you are the special few! who i envy LOL!

But they should be out by the end of the month or so last i heard from Weylin.

:)


Btw all. I have one more VTX10R in stock.... come get it!

Premierehobbies.com!

forwardonly 05-08-2011 03:51 PM

It was good to see a Viper showing at our track in Jeff City Mo this weekend. Can't wait to try some of the products.

mini-dub 05-08-2011 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by msave (Post 9076834)
What exactly is slew rate and how does that affect bottom end and top end timing? I love this system!! Finally got a chance to play with some settings outside today.

Slew rate is how quickly the esc adds the top speed timing after. It is measured in degrees/1000rpm. Default on most profiles is 10*/1000rpm, and adjustable in 1* increments. A lower value will be less aggressive add the dynamic timing over more rpm, a higher value will add it very quickly. Hope this helps!


Originally Posted by beazer30801 (Post 9076983)
I need some more help got everything hooked up and all I get when I turn on the speedo is a red light and the green N light blinking with a tone and nothing else whats going on I'm not having any luck with these speedo's but I really want to give it a real shot.

When the green N led is blinking after startup it means the esc is unhappy with the neutral input signal it's receiving from the radio and it wont initialize. It's a safety feature so the esc doesnt initialize and then start running away. Make sure your throttle trim and sub trim are centered. It sounds like that was your first time turning it on and you hadn't calibrated your radio yet. For the calibration process please refer to your manual, it's very simple. Also be sure your throttle channel isn't reversed.

If you perform the calibration process and still get the N light blinking when you turn it on, try turning your throttle end points all the way up to their max value and repeating the process, I've had this solve the problem before.

If the problem STILL persists then your radio may have a problem, most likely the throttle pot is worn out and not giving a precise neutral signal. The VTX10/10R esc's are rather picky about this. Try moving your trigger forward and back about 1mm and it will likely see a happy neutral signal and initialize. Changing the deadband to middle or wide also makes the esc more forgiving on neutral signals.

JDriemeier 05-08-2011 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by forwardonly (Post 9081249)
It was good to see a Viper showing at our track in Jeff City Mo this weekend. Can't wait to try some of the products.


I agree Viper had a very good showing at the barn this weekend. It was alot of fun!

beazer30801 05-08-2011 09:18 PM

I've re Calibrated the radio a few times I'll try and max out the end points and try it again and see what happens.

Thanks mini-dub

smokinu 05-09-2011 12:21 AM


Originally Posted by beazer30801 (Post 9082767)
I've re Calibrated the radio a few times I'll try and max out the end points and try it again and see what happens.

Thanks mini-dub

what calibration are you using.

turn on radio

hold down esc power button (with motor hooked up)
Will hear two tones.

Hold full throttle
two more tones

Go full break
Esc goes lights out

Return to nutral
Esc will flicker give power up tones and go led green for nutral.

Just making sure thats what you are following

beazer30801 05-09-2011 07:16 AM

Yes that's the calibration I'm using but when it goes to the neutral position the green N light is blinking and giving off a beep when it blinks.

nikos2002 05-09-2011 08:31 AM

beazer, make sure your throttle trims are centered at zero (even the subtrim).

Also try changing the reverse setting on the channel. The ESC doesn't care, but it might make the neutral more noticeable to the ESC. I did that once to help fix this type of issue.

Jamie James 05-09-2011 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by mini-dub (Post 9081288)
Try moving your trigger forward and back about 1mm and it will likely see a happy neutral signal and initialize. Changing the deadband to middle or wide also makes the esc more forgiving on neutral signals.

Have you tried either of these suggestions?

I know every once in a while when I come off the track my VTX10 is not showing neutral. I slight pull or push of the trigger brings the ESC to show neutral.

mcheroke 05-09-2011 07:13 PM

Just ordered my VTX10R w/ ProGauge this morning...can wait to get it in the sc10 4x4 by this weekend.

jdegraff57z 05-09-2011 11:24 PM

Anyone with a quick idea on 17.5 gearing, boosted, on a XXX-SCT? VTX10 & VST17.5T. Track's got a 130ft straight, with technical'ish infield...

Bburns 05-09-2011 11:32 PM


Originally Posted by mcheroke (Post 9087827)
Just ordered my VTX10R w/ ProGauge this morning...can wait to get it in the sc10 4x4 by this weekend.

Sweet, at least I won't be the only one with a viper in my sc10 4x4. I've had my viper for a week. Now I will get my sc10 4x4 today. I'm really happy with the quality of my vtc10r, well packaged. I'll have the pleasure of tuning the sc10 and viper on Saturday.

BOLISARIO 05-09-2011 11:37 PM

550/ VTXR setups
 
Got any setups for a vtx10R with a 4.5 550 motor? These 4.5 550's run better and cooler without any timing? I'm going to the track tomorrow to try the new esc out for the first time and compare it to the MMP I had on my truck previously. With the MMP, I was geared 12/54(DESC410R) with no timing and I'm temping in the 170's and 105 esc at lipo cutoff which over 10 min. Indoor, small, technical clay track with good traction.

CraigV 05-10-2011 06:19 AM


Originally Posted by jdegraff57z (Post 9088874)
Anyone with a quick idea on 17.5 gearing, boosted, on a XXX-SCT? VTX10 & VST17.5T. Track's got a 130ft straight, with technical'ish infield...

Go for a final drive ratio around 10:1.

Spur/Pinion * 2.43 = Final Drive Ratio

Let me know if you need more help with the math. I just need to know what size spur gear you have.

Craig


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