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Old 01-12-2015 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Jmfknpizzle
4wd sct viper 4.5xl/vtx8 combo apparently the power it pulls spikes the esc into thinking the motor is over heating about 4 mins into the race.
What sct are you running it in? I run mine in a sct410 i will check my settings tomorrow afternoon and pm to you if you would like?
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Old 01-12-2015 | 07:43 PM
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Buying a brand new motor must have been your last ditch effort to trouble shoot the problem, correct? This thread is pretty active. You probably could have posted on here and one of us might have been able to help you out. Shoot, I wish I would have been around, you could have borrowed one of mine to try to see what was wrong. I think reworking the instructions to include the testing needed to establish the motor cut off I think would be beneficial and reduce the number of questions asked on this thread though.
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Old 01-13-2015 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by micrors4guy
What sct are you running it in? I run mine in a sct410 i will check my settings tomorrow afternoon and pm to you if you would like?
I run in a tekno sct410 looking at other setups never hurt shoot me a pm when you get a chance
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Old 01-14-2015 | 08:10 PM
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Jmfknpizzle - if you kept getting the error code that your were in a temperature cut off situation - did you raise the temperature setting or choose the default option?

Unfortunately from the phone calls I get (they all come to me), more times than not the manual is not read. It would be easy to make 2 more pages with all kinds of additional information, but a high majority of people don't read the manual past calibration.

The design of the protection is just that - to prove a second layer of protection - the temp gun should always be first. Just like shock changes or camber change, speed control changes need to be tested and verified as well.
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Old 01-14-2015 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Jmfknpizzle
Just wanted to say viper just cost me $150 if motor cutoff function does not work properly take it out of the esc. I was getting motor shutdown codes all day at last race but motor was at 108. Finally Reading through pages on here while I should be racing. I found out the answer but that was after i dropped $150 on a new motor.I have been a viper fan but this didnt sit well with me this time.
Did you try changing the sensor wire too? Temp sent by this cable and can send wrong info if damaged
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Old 01-14-2015 | 09:08 PM
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What was the answer so you can help others?
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Old 01-15-2015 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by WagwanBumba
Did you try changing the sensor wire too? Temp sent by this cable and can send wrong info if damaged
Typically sensor wires are either working or not working. As with any electronic element there is a + or - for every part. Sensors from different companies may read slightly different. Two sensors from the same company could be 5* or 10* apart.
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Old 01-15-2015 | 11:28 AM
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nikos: are there any situations an esc can have happen where your best bet is to contact viper first before keep attempting to use the product, like what I have been unfortunately experiencing?
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Old 01-15-2015 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Cain
nikos: are there any situations an esc can have happen where your best bet is to contact viper first before keep attempting to use the product, like what I have been unfortunately experiencing?
Only if you are trying something really outside of the box with crazy high voltage in a chassis not designed for it or something really different.

Our product line is designed to operate within competition parameters set up by ROAR, EFRA and IFMAR. Just like other products as long as they are used in a fashion as they are rated shouldn't be any issue. Not going to deny that sometimes things happen. Wouldn't be honest if we didn't. It's always possible. It's also possible that it's not always the "new" part or the different part that fails. Thats why we work so hard with our customers to help verify the problem if one exists. That's why we work to duplicate the problem in our office if possible to verify why it happen. Just blindly replacing everything doesn't always resolve the actual problem.

Sometimes bad luck comes into play. Sometimes the cause isn't obvious the first time. But you would also be surprised how many times someone can say it just doesn't work. But we get it and there is not an issue. Or they say they bought it two weeks ago and it looks like its years old. We like to think these systems are all plug and play. But there are a lot of variables at work, all the time.
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Old 01-15-2015 | 05:47 PM
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I will also note that we think it's very important to have forums like this to answer questions and try to resolve problems. Not many other companies do this. Some have even said they can't get tied down answering things all day. We feel it's important. We also know from how many units we get back that more people don't talk about their success with them. As do if they have a problem. but that's ok. Because we just want to help people enjoy the products the best way possible. We've shown they are high quality. We've shown they are highly competitive. We've shown we have support for the brand. It's up to those buying to decide how it all fits in.
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Old 01-15-2015 | 05:56 PM
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Nikos2002- is the BLack Edition 17.5 motor with a 12.5 hi torque rotor still roar approved?
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Old 01-15-2015 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by nikos2002
Only if you are trying something really outside of the box with crazy high voltage in a chassis not designed for it or something really different.

Our product line is designed to operate within competition parameters set up by ROAR, EFRA and IFMAR. Just like other products as long as they are used in a fashion as they are rated shouldn't be any issue. Not going to deny that sometimes things happen. Wouldn't be honest if we didn't. It's always possible. It's also possible that it's not always the "new" part or the different part that fails. Thats why we work so hard with our customers to help verify the problem if one exists. That's why we work to duplicate the problem in our office if possible to verify why it happen. Just blindly replacing everything doesn't always resolve the actual problem.

Sometimes bad luck comes into play. Sometimes the cause isn't obvious the first time. But you would also be surprised how many times someone can say it just doesn't work. But we get it and there is not an issue. Or they say they bought it two weeks ago and it looks like its years old. We like to think these systems are all plug and play. But there are a lot of variables at work, all the time.
I guess I am the one off situation then with what we have been discussing and trying to fix.

But I appreciate what you have been doing with working with me through this and hopefully this last go around is just that!
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Old 01-18-2015 | 08:35 AM
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Are the b.e. motors still torque based like the vts?
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Old 01-18-2015 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by cweb
Are the b.e. motors still torque based like the vts?
good question.

my assumption based on spec rotor sizes would be no just off of that, but it could be more to it.

be curious how a red motor compares to the b.e. edition for 17.5, out of the box versus out of the box torque wise.
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Old 01-18-2015 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by nikos2002
I will also note that we think it's very important to have forums like this to answer questions and try to resolve problems. Not many other companies do this. Some have even said they can't get tied down answering things all day. We feel it's important. We also know from how many units we get back that more people don't talk about their success with them. As do if they have a problem. but that's ok. Because we just want to help people enjoy the products the best way possible. We've shown they are high quality. We've shown they are highly competitive. We've shown we have support for the brand. It's up to those buying to decide how it all fits in.
3 VTX8 , we never had a problem with them.
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