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C Branch 12-10-2012 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by stu541 (Post 11537948)
Colin, the viper 12.5 rotor is very strong. I tried the high rpm and didn't like it in blinky. I would try gearing.. I know it sounds low but I am geared 75/29 in blinky and feel just fine with that. Loads of torque and plenty of rpm.

I have played with gearing and it is very good with 32/72 and I actually want to go even bigger on the pinion.
I may just try a bigger rotor for "testing" purposes as I feel more torque is what is needed to clear that pesky triple lol!

I know others were running option rotors at this race and I feel that is the difference. I am just curious how it will effect top speed and gearing.

nikos2002 12-10-2012 11:42 AM

C - when you change rotors you are changing the characteristics of the motor. So you have to change gearing accordingly. My guess would be they put the torque rotor in and geared up. Our motors are already designed on the torque side, so same principles apply. I have used RPM rotors on-road and felt a performance gain. I know several of the team drivers like the torque rotors in the modified classes -- on the bigger tracks out west.

Its another option -- we are all about the options!!! Something to test for yourself to see if it suits your style and track.

nikos2002 12-10-2012 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by OMG23RC (Post 11536515)
guys how well would a normal vtx10 B.E handle a 7.5 in a 4wd buggy?

OMG - I ran that combination when I first started with Viper in my TQ 4wd and liked it a lot. I had no issues. Fast and competitive (too fast sometimes - yes, I am getting old). In Australia though -- might want to make sure you have body holes cut to get some fresh air in there!! Just to be safe.

C Branch 12-10-2012 12:17 PM

Nick, I will give it a try as I see that the rotors are on sale right now ;)
Now I just have to decide which size to order......do I go all the way and get the largest?

nikos2002 12-10-2012 12:49 PM

It comes with a 12.5 so 12.8 is the next one up.

C Branch 12-10-2012 01:59 PM

Thanks Nick!!!

thorns 12-11-2012 02:28 PM

Just after some help, am new to electric buggys after running nitro for the last while.
I am after a 6.5t setup for my soon to arrive Cat K1.

Could someone tell me the main difference between these two here
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...w-ProGauge-65T
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...w-ProGauge-65T

From what I can see, the difference is that one of them can handle down to a 3.5t motor, where as the other is 6.5t lowest. Does this mean the esc would be more on the edge of its performance running the 6.5t on the cheaper VTX10 esc.

Am I going to benefit spening the extra 40 to get the R spec esc?

Thanks
Paul

bring it on 12-11-2012 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by thorns (Post 11543332)
Just after some help, am new to electric buggys after running nitro for the last while.
I am after a 6.5t setup for my soon to arrive Cat K1.

Could someone tell me the main difference between these two here
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...w-ProGauge-65T
http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...w-ProGauge-65T

From what I can see, the difference is that one of them can handle down to a 3.5t motor, where as the other is 6.5t lowest. Does this mean the esc would be more on the edge of its performance running the 6.5t on the cheaper VTX10 esc.

Am I going to benefit spening the extra 40 to get the R spec esc?

Thanks
Paul

If you plan on running it in a 2wd buggy then I would just get the 1st one as that's what I run in my buggy except a 7.5 motor, If you are going to run it in a 4wd buggy then get the VTX10R, 2nd one

stu541 12-11-2012 02:32 PM

for 4wd buggy spend the extra and get the "R" I run the vtx10r 6.5 combo in mine, runs flawless!

nikos2002 12-11-2012 03:26 PM

Yea - what he said /\/\/\

Honestly, its better to spend a little more and be safe in the performance window than save a little up front than push the equipment too hard.

FLHX1550 12-12-2012 04:22 AM

The VTX10 and VTX10-BE are spec'd down to 6.5 turn motors on 2s Lipo in two wheel drive applications.

All 4wd applications should use the VTX10R or VTX10R-BE

Breeze 12-12-2012 06:47 PM

So I just bought 3 BE escs to run in my b4 t4 and b44. I will be running d3.5 8.5s in all 3 classes, what settings and gearing should I start at, small to medium, high bite track

bigjerry 12-12-2012 07:05 PM

Anyone have a blank Motor setup sheet on pdf that can be posted

Wildcat1971 12-12-2012 09:09 PM

HOLY CRAP. What did you guys change in a55? After 45 minutes of trying to save the setting to my esc... no mater what I did pc link or proguage, it kept reverting to profile 8 and would never save my profile 3 change. I eventually got the setting to work with the pc link. hopefully once i send the cable back to grasshoper it does not freak out again. Anyway, I loaded the a55 #3 profile and omfg, where did all the horse power come from? I looked at all of the setting and nothing really stood out as special. I used the software KV estimator for the boost start and stop rpm 5500 and 19k for my 3000kv motor. After calibrating it 5 times....... I fulled the trigger all the way back thinking it would be the same as before. The tires almost blew off the rim. WTF. Do I need to lower a setting? Seems way too powerful. All i did to the profile 3 was add 10% drag, disable dynamic braking. and set the start and stop rpm based on your KV estimator.

Bob Barry 12-12-2012 09:31 PM


Originally Posted by Wildcat1971 (Post 11549051)
HOLY CRAP. What did you guys change in a55? After 45 minutes of trying to save the setting to my esc... no mater what I did pc link or proguage, it kept reverting to profile 8 and would never save my profile 3 change. I eventually got the setting to work with the pc link. hopefully once i send the cable back to grasshoper it does not freak out again. Anyway, I loaded the a55 #3 profile and omfg, where did all the horse power come from? I looked at all of the setting and nothing really stood out as special. I used the software KV estimator for the boost start and stop rpm 5500 and 19k for my 3000kv motor. After calibrating it 5 times....... I fulled the trigger all the way back thinking it would be the same as before. The tires almost blew off the rim. WTF. Do I need to lower a setting? Seems way too powerful. All i did to the profile 3 was add 10% drag, disable dynamic braking. and set the start and stop rpm based on your KV estimator.

HAHAHA

I told you :sneaky:


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