4LikesViper RC -
09-06-2011 | 06:43 PM
#2551
I never once limited the punch in my vtx10r and never thermal the esc once.
09-06-2011 | 06:47 PM
#2552
09-06-2011 | 06:51 PM
#2553
with a tekin pro4 motor. as Salad said its anyones guess how its going to run.
I ran mine with a a couple viper motors and a novak 5.5. the esc temps were fine.
Ill have to look back and find the info for you. i quoted a setup we got from raegan hopefully its still up.
went ahead and did the search and found it here you go buddy.
I ran mine with a a couple viper motors and a novak 5.5. the esc temps were fine.
Ill have to look back and find the info for you. i quoted a setup we got from raegan hopefully its still up.
went ahead and did the search and found it here you go buddy.
Originally Posted by SC_RAGE View Post
Had a great day of testing and found some helpful settings for those of you running our VTX10R ESC and planning on running our 550 motors.
VST5.5XL- 15tooth pinion. VTX10R-Profile #2, Brake strength 80%, Brake PWM freq 8000Hz, Brake curve linear, Neutral Drag brake 10%, THROTTLE PWM freq 9600Hz, Throttle punch 20%-30%, Throttle curve linear, Deadband middle, no timing - default, not motor protection, esc protection 240 degrees. (esc temp 130-150)-(motor temp 150-160)
VST4.5XL-14tooth pinion. VTX10R-Profile#2, Brake strength 80%, Brake PWM freq 8000HZ, Brake curve linear, Neutral drag brake 10%, Throttle PWM freq 9600Hz, Throttle punch 15%-20%, Throttle curve linear, Deadband middle, no timing- default, no motor protection, esc protection 240 degrees. (esc temp 120-140)-(motor temp 150-170)
Track type Indoor Clay high bite for both test results. Tests were done in 3min-5min-10min intervals. The brake settings really helped cool down some temps. We also found the under geared motors will run very hot. Be sure to check your gearing, it is very important. I felt that the VST5.5XL was the better choice for indoor racing. The powerband seemed to be a lot wider and smoother for tighter tracks. The VST4.5XL was impressive but was a bit much for the track. Lap times were more consistent with the VST5.5XL, and the temps were much easier to manage. All of our testing was done with a fairly stock Losi TEN-SCTE, A very heavy 4WD short course as most of you already know. The settings provided here were a bench mark to help those who are new to the brand and even some who are quite familiar. Give these a try and let us know how they work at your track.
Had a great day of testing and found some helpful settings for those of you running our VTX10R ESC and planning on running our 550 motors.
VST5.5XL- 15tooth pinion. VTX10R-Profile #2, Brake strength 80%, Brake PWM freq 8000Hz, Brake curve linear, Neutral Drag brake 10%, THROTTLE PWM freq 9600Hz, Throttle punch 20%-30%, Throttle curve linear, Deadband middle, no timing - default, not motor protection, esc protection 240 degrees. (esc temp 130-150)-(motor temp 150-160)
VST4.5XL-14tooth pinion. VTX10R-Profile#2, Brake strength 80%, Brake PWM freq 8000HZ, Brake curve linear, Neutral drag brake 10%, Throttle PWM freq 9600Hz, Throttle punch 15%-20%, Throttle curve linear, Deadband middle, no timing- default, no motor protection, esc protection 240 degrees. (esc temp 120-140)-(motor temp 150-170)
Track type Indoor Clay high bite for both test results. Tests were done in 3min-5min-10min intervals. The brake settings really helped cool down some temps. We also found the under geared motors will run very hot. Be sure to check your gearing, it is very important. I felt that the VST5.5XL was the better choice for indoor racing. The powerband seemed to be a lot wider and smoother for tighter tracks. The VST4.5XL was impressive but was a bit much for the track. Lap times were more consistent with the VST5.5XL, and the temps were much easier to manage. All of our testing was done with a fairly stock Losi TEN-SCTE, A very heavy 4WD short course as most of you already know. The settings provided here were a bench mark to help those who are new to the brand and even some who are quite familiar. Give these a try and let us know how they work at your track.
09-06-2011 | 07:06 PM
#2554
with a tekin pro4 motor. as Salad said its anyones guess how its going to run.
I ran mine with a a couple viper motors and a novak 5.5. the esc temps were fine.
Ill have to look back and find the info for you. i quoted a setup we got from raegan hopefully its still up.
went ahead and did the search and found it here you go buddy.
I ran mine with a a couple viper motors and a novak 5.5. the esc temps were fine.
Ill have to look back and find the info for you. i quoted a setup we got from raegan hopefully its still up.
went ahead and did the search and found it here you go buddy.
09-06-2011 | 08:54 PM
#2557
Quick note on the temp questions with 550 motors. I got to spend a little time with TLR Project Manager/Viper driver Ryan Dunford at the SC Nats and he told me he doesn't have issues with temp on the speed control, he has one of the prototype fan kits - hasn't used it. Try the settings listed as a recommended starting spot, remember that if you are pushing the equipment to get the most speed and power you can, be cautious as you start to run for 8, 10, 12 minutes. Today's batteries will let you do that, but the continued heat build over that time can cause issues (on any equipment). If you want to run for longer and longer time - maybe gear accordingly and a little more cautiously.
09-07-2011 | 09:13 AM
#2558
Team Tekin
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,199
All i can say is wow! Seriously if you think that your stuff is all that!! Let it speak for its "SELF!"
I guess viper is doing good considering other companies are watching their threads. Keep up the good work viper. Dont forget soup i want that 4 pole sensored 4wd motor let me know when its coming i want to be one of the first in line.
I guess viper is doing good considering other companies are watching their threads. Keep up the good work viper. Dont forget soup i want that 4 pole sensored 4wd motor let me know when its coming i want to be one of the first in line.Let the products speak for themselves instead of making false statements about how they compare to our proven products. Seriously….
You are mad at me for pointing out the truth rather than him for misleading you to begin with. Weird
09-07-2011 | 09:33 AM
#2559
Tech Legend
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 22,595
From: TRCR Modified Driver
I will not address anything except what I came here for. I know better than to come into your clubhouse and get all ruffled and scared. I do not belong here explaining the RX8 fet count and why it can handle considerably more power.
A Viper employee made a false claim and called out Tekin by name. If some of you would rather be mislead and lied to and even defend their actions that is entirely up to you. When someone is misleading the public about a Tekin product or trying to elevate their product with a false comparison, it will not be allowed.
It is NOT true and if you continue to claim it officially as a Viper employee we are going to have a problem. The 10R DOES NOT have almost double the fets of a Rx8, not even close.
I am happy to discuss the Rx8 and how it compares in other places where I do belong. Considering how similar the 10R is to our 3yr old original RSpro that also has 48fets we are very familiar with the performance abilities of the platform.
Tekin Prez
A Viper employee made a false claim and called out Tekin by name. If some of you would rather be mislead and lied to and even defend their actions that is entirely up to you. When someone is misleading the public about a Tekin product or trying to elevate their product with a false comparison, it will not be allowed.
It is NOT true and if you continue to claim it officially as a Viper employee we are going to have a problem. The 10R DOES NOT have almost double the fets of a Rx8, not even close.
I am happy to discuss the Rx8 and how it compares in other places where I do belong. Considering how similar the 10R is to our 3yr old original RSpro that also has 48fets we are very familiar with the performance abilities of the platform.
Tekin Prez
Can't believe you ...
Why even waste your time with the
salad ?
The guy only wins bench races .....
09-07-2011 | 10:52 AM
#2560
Team Tekin
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,199
A customer emailed me asking if this was true. Clearly this had more effect than just deceiving the Viper customers and had to be dealt with regardless of who made the statement. When I gently corrected him he admitted he was guessing and then made the false statement again! 
You of all people know how this stuff can get out of hand and forums can spread bad information just as well as good if you do not put a fork in it.
Couldn't resist...
Fortunately we usually have guys like Cherry around to keep us honest and call like it is
You of all people know how this stuff can get out of hand and forums can spread bad information just as well as good if you do not put a fork in it.
Couldn't resist...Fortunately we usually have guys like Cherry around to keep us honest and call like it is
09-07-2011 | 12:15 PM
#2561
A customer emailed me asking if this was true. Clearly this had more effect than just deceiving the Viper customers and had to be dealt with regardless of who made the statement. When I gently corrected him he admitted he was guessing and then made the false statement again!
You of all people know how this stuff can get out of hand and forums can spread bad information just as well as good if you do not put a fork in it. Couldn't resist...
Fortunately we usually have guys like Cherry around to keep us honest and call like it is
You of all people know how this stuff can get out of hand and forums can spread bad information just as well as good if you do not put a fork in it.
Couldn't resist...Fortunately we usually have guys like Cherry around to keep us honest and call like it is
but... Too come in here with a bully attitude is a crock man.. If someone makes a false statement about your product in their house you can't just come into their house and call them out.. Brush it off be PROFESSIONAL??
Can't be tooting your own horn with these biting off more then you can chew bs come on man...
You're 2 great NW companies that make top tier products be each their own.. When I'm in someone elses house I DO NOT correct the way they raise their kids or discipline them if I don't agree with it.. This is VIPER's house if you cannot respect their house even if they're possibly spreading false information you gotta forget about it.. and let it be... the product will do the talking.. Now as a consumer.. I've got no product to represent so I can go around and bash anything and everything I want
09-07-2011 | 12:19 PM
#2562
A customer emailed me asking if this was true. Clearly this had more effect than just deceiving the Viper customers and had to be dealt with regardless of who made the statement. When I gently corrected him he admitted he was guessing and then made the false statement again!
You of all people know how this stuff can get out of hand and forums can spread bad information just as well as good if you do not put a fork in it. Couldn't resist...
Fortunately we usually have guys like Cherry around to keep us honest and call like it is
You of all people know how this stuff can get out of hand and forums can spread bad information just as well as good if you do not put a fork in it.
Couldn't resist...Fortunately we usually have guys like Cherry around to keep us honest and call like it is
09-07-2011 | 12:32 PM
#2563
Tech Legend
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 22,595
From: TRCR Modified Driver
salad started it all with false statements about the MOSFET count on a brand of ESC he knows nothing about .....
09-07-2011 | 12:36 PM
#2564
I personally own an RX8 and love it.. and planned on purchasing more Tekin products for my kids rc cars..
but... Too come in here with a bully attitude is a crock man.. If someone makes a false statement about your product in their house you can't just come into their house and call them out.. Brush it off be PROFESSIONAL??
Can't be tooting your own horn with these biting off more then you can chew bs come on man...
You're 2 great NW companies that make top tier products be each their own.. When I'm in someone elses house I DO NOT correct the way they raise their kids or discipline them if I don't agree with it.. This is VIPER's house if you cannot respect their house even if they're possibly spreading false information you gotta forget about it.. and let it be... the product will do the talking.. Now as a consumer.. I've got no product to represent so I can go around and bash anything and everything I want
but... Too come in here with a bully attitude is a crock man.. If someone makes a false statement about your product in their house you can't just come into their house and call them out.. Brush it off be PROFESSIONAL??
Can't be tooting your own horn with these biting off more then you can chew bs come on man...
You're 2 great NW companies that make top tier products be each their own.. When I'm in someone elses house I DO NOT correct the way they raise their kids or discipline them if I don't agree with it.. This is VIPER's house if you cannot respect their house even if they're possibly spreading false information you gotta forget about it.. and let it be... the product will do the talking.. Now as a consumer.. I've got no product to represent so I can go around and bash anything and everything I want
09-07-2011 | 12:41 PM
#2565
ok i have products from both companys and they both are great , however your comment is the worst thing ive heard. if you own a buisness and someone is making false statements about your product, your lively hood depends on setting the record straight right then and there. Im not saying a false statement was made or wasnt made, but if it was then he had every right to come and set the record straight. All it takes is one statement, true or false and everybody and there brother knows about it before the days over