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Old 09-07-2011 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
salad started it all with false statements about the MOSFET count on a brand of ESC he knows nothing about .....
salad started it he kicked the bark chips first

You sound like my 5 yearold rofl
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Old 09-07-2011 | 12:46 PM
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understandable, but u have to look at it this way also, if you dont tell your side of the story than the statement will leave doubt in potential customers
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Old 09-07-2011 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by cwilkinson
salad started it he kicked the bark chips first

You sound like my 5 yearold rofl


Reason why I posted here ....
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Old 09-07-2011 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by savageboy69
understandable, but u have to look at it this way also, if you dont tell your side of the story than the statement will leave doubt in potential customers
Exactly quote it and correct it in your own thread.. "your own house"
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Old 09-07-2011 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by cwilkinson
I personally own an RX8 and love it.. and planned on purchasing more Tekin products for my kids rc cars..

but... Too come in here with a bully attitude is a crock man.. If someone makes a false statement about your product in their house you can't just come into their house and call them out.. Brush it off be PROFESSIONAL??

Can't be tooting your own horn with these biting off more then you can chew bs come on man...

You're 2 great NW companies that make top tier products be each their own.. When I'm in someone elses house I DO NOT correct the way they raise their kids or discipline them if I don't agree with it.. This is VIPER's house if you cannot respect their house even if they're possibly spreading false information you gotta forget about it.. and let it be... the product will do the talking.. Now as a consumer.. I've got no product to represent so I can go around and bash anything and everything I want
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation

"Defamation—also called calumny, vilification, traducement, slander (for transitory statements), and libel (for written, broadcast, or otherwise published words)—is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government, or nation a negative image."

Originally Posted by SaladFork
[...] The VTX10R has almost twice the FETs as the RX8 [...]
Originally Posted by SaladFork
I was not saying the RX8 is bad, I just said it has almost double the FETs which is true.
You have to be careful as an employee of a business. Claiming "almost twice" when the reality is only 33% more, then claiming "which is true" is treading on thin water. The first time you implied that it was factual, and the second time you stated it was. Although you haven't directly bad mouthed the RX8, you've implied that it's inferior.
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Old 09-07-2011 | 01:06 PM
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As I have mentioned before, I was wrong in mentioning the RX8 had almost double the FET's. When it has 36 which is not double. I made the correction, you made the correction, Randy made the correction. We get it.

Any more comments about this situation can be directed to my email - [email protected]

Thanks Jim!
Have a great day,
Trey-

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Old 09-07-2011 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Wattser93
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation

"Defamation—also called calumny, vilification, traducement, slander (for transitory statements), and libel (for written, broadcast, or otherwise published words)—is the communication of a statement that makes a claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may give an individual, business, product, group, government, or nation a negative image."





You have to be careful as an employee of a business. Claiming "almost twice" when the reality is only 33% more, then claiming "which is true" is treading on thin water. The first time you implied that it was factual, and the second time you stated it was. Although you haven't directly bad mouthed the RX8, you've implied that it's inferior.

Comparing "almost twice" to 33% would work out.. If it was 20% more and that statement was made then I'd be a little uneasy with that statement..

Originally Posted by Tekin Prez
I am happy to discuss the Rx8 and how it compares in other places where I do belong. Considering how similar the 10R is to our 3yr old original RSpro that also has 48fets we are very familiar with the performance abilities of the platform.

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Now I would almost take that as Mr. Tekin basically said that the Viper 10r is a knock off of the original 3 yearold RSpro.. So why doesn't Tekin just attack Viper with some copyright crap and just eliminate the whole competition

But honestly.. I'm not gonna get all Perry Mason up in here with wikipedia and crap
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Old 09-07-2011 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by cwilkinson
Comparing "almost twice" to 33% would work out.. If it was 20% more and that statement was made then I'd be a little uneasy with that statement..



Now I would almost take that as Mr. Tekin basically said that the Viper 10r is a knock off of the original 3 yearold RSpro.. So why doesn't Tekin just attack Viper with some copyright crap and just eliminate the whole competition

But honestly.. I'm not gonna get all Perry Mason up in here with wikipedia and crap
100% more is twice, 50% more is one and a half times, so 33% more isn't anything close to double, just FYI.

I didn't plan on responding to this thread anymore, but I wanted to make sure you understood how the math worked out.
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Old 09-07-2011 | 01:23 PM
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I think the whole argument is ridiculous. Both are top notch products and also two completely different products. Both had issues in the beginning stages of production. As far as the FET's go I could care less as long as the product works.
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Old 09-07-2011 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Wattser93
100% more is twice, 50% more is one and a half times, so 33% more isn't anything close to double, just FYI.

I didn't plan on responding to this thread anymore, but I wanted to make sure you understood how the math worked out.

you're so kind..
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Old 09-07-2011 | 02:22 PM
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That is candy bar math. Diet math says it is 25% less.

Bully attitude? I simply deal with problems at the source rather than hope it will be OK. I think it is silly for you to suggest we should address it in our threads with the wild hopes that maybe a few of the people that read it here will see our response. Non Viper thread readers had no reason to be aware of it at all.

The statement was false. It came from here, I addressed it here and this is where it belonged. Now I think we are all done with it and we can move on to some friendly competition at the track.
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Old 09-07-2011 | 04:51 PM
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It was a good weekend for Viper!

Last weekend in Maiorca Track was the last round of the Portuguese National Champion. Viper Team Driver Jorge Simoes drove a Associated TC6 powered by Viper 13.5T VST brushless motor qualified in second and won all the 3 A finals becoming the overall Portuguese National 13.5T Boosted Champion with victories in rounds 1, 2 and 5.

Seattle local Justin Gilkinson had a great weekend at the Canadian Off Road Championships held in Kelowna B.C. Just T.Q. and won Mod Truck and also T.Q. and won 2wd Mod Short Course. The VTX & VST paired with an ace driver like Justin proved to be too much for the competition. Congratulations on the double win!

Congrats!!
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Old 09-07-2011 | 05:36 PM
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Viper:

For anyone who deals with the warranty, i forgot to put the receipts in the package of both my ese's that i just sent to you.

May 22, 2011 for one and the other is May 25, 2011
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Old 09-07-2011 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Cult Racing
Viper:

For anyone who deals with the warranty, i forgot to put the receipts in the package of both my ese's that i just sent to you.

May 22, 2011 for one and the other is May 25, 2011
You will have to fax: (425) 968-5739 or snail mail the receipts back to Viper's HQ.
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Old 09-07-2011 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SaladFork
You will have to fax: (425) 968-5739 or snail mail the receipts back to Viper's HQ.
got the email?
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