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OWTKAST cpt 05-23-2011 09:03 AM

No matter what I seem to change the boost hits really hard.

If I back off the acceleration boost to like 10 or 15 what would I do to make the top end boost pull hard through the higher rpm ranges?

Jamie James 05-23-2011 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by OWTKAST cpt (Post 9143132)
Hope I can explain this right.

Im running 2wd 17.5 buggy outdoors.

I need the "SPEED and oomph" but MAN does the timing hit hard. I have adjusted the RPM range but it just hits soo hard it breaks the back end loose.

Any idea on what to adjust to get a nice smooth power output?

Also on the "speed" setting with the degree/1000 rpm what exactly does that affect?

Thanks

Chase


Originally Posted by OWTKAST cpt (Post 9147883)
Anyone have recOmmended settings for STUPID low traction with long straights?? Breaking the tires loose stupid easy


Originally Posted by OWTKAST cpt (Post 9152637)
No matter what I seem to change the boost hits really hard.

If I back off the acceleration boost to like 10 or 15 what would I do to make the top end boost pull hard through the higher rpm ranges?

After reading you posts, my first question would be....are you running the optimum tires for the track conditions?? If you are not sure, ask some of the fast guys what they are running. Look at your overall set up as well. If that's not the problem, try this.

Sounds like you need to put the power down smoothly...honestly, the best way to do this is with a smooth trigger finger, especially in 2wd.

The ESC can make life easier. Try each one of these suggestions one at a time and go in small increments. Try one change, run some laps and reset it to where it was. Then do the same for the others. Check temps often.

1. Raise the PWM frequency ( check temps, higher values can raise temps)
2. Lower the throttle punch
3. Raise your Acceleration Timing
4. Lower your Slew rate. ( as mentioned before)

Try these and post back. Finding a the sweet spot and figuring out how everything works takes time, especially with the amount of adjustments the VTX10's offer. It's all worth it in the end. :sneaky:

mini-dub 05-23-2011 11:35 AM

Those are some good suggestions from Jamie, give those a try.

Perhaps try turning your slew rate down to 1*/1000rpm, that will greatly smooth out the top speed timing engagement.

mini-dub 05-23-2011 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by Bburns (Post 9150567)
Thanks, I sent him a pm. I love the speedo, my temps are normal and it is one of the smoothest speedos I've used. I hope I don't have to send it in. I have a huge race this weekend and I don't want it to fail on me. It's been great so far.

PM replied. It should keep working fine for your race this weekend, the problem you're experiencing is uncured waterproofing glue (occasional issue on the first production run) but shouldn't affect performance or stability. Run it for your race and then send it in after at your convenience :tire:

mini-dub 05-23-2011 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by chiatw73 (Post 9147851)
not even if the T8 is used in sct like the losi scte?

thanx


Originally Posted by smokinu (Post 9148173)
using it on 2S? the mmp dose it so why cant our esc!

Because it will void the warranty, that's why. The VTX10R is a 1/10 motor controller only.

mini-dub 05-23-2011 01:32 PM

Viper R/C enters the 550 motor game
 
Viper R/C Solutions enters the 550 motor game with the all new VST 4.5XL and 5.5XL 550 class motors. The VST-XL series coupled with the powerful VTX10R esc makes an optimum setup for your 4x4 short course.

The VST-XL series have been in testing and development stages for many months with top level drivers such as Billy Fischer. Billy's power systems have been both extremely powerful and reliable even under the toughest racing conditions at the Silverstate and Cactus Classic.

The first shipment is expected to arrive in mid-June, 2011. Please check major on line stores and your LHS for pre-order!!

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._8002712_n.jpg

OWTKAST cpt 05-23-2011 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by Jamie James (Post 9153001)
After reading you posts, my first question would be....are you running the optimum tires for the track conditions?? If you are not sure, ask some of the fast guys what they are running. Look at your overall set up as well. If that's not the problem, try this.

Sounds like you need to put the power down smoothly...honestly, the best way to do this is with a smooth trigger finger, especially in 2wd.

The ESC can make life easier. Try each one of these suggestions one at a time and go in small increments. Try one change, run some laps and reset it to where it was. Then do the same for the others. Check temps often.

1. Raise the PWM frequency ( check temps, higher values can raise temps)
2. Lower the throttle punch
3. Raise your Acceleration Timing
4. Lower your Slew rate. ( as mentioned before)

Try these and post back. Finding a the sweet spot and figuring out how everything works takes time, especially with the amount of adjustments the VTX10's offer. It's all worth it in the end. :sneaky:


I am the fast guy? lol Nah here on the local level it is me and 2-3 others fighting for top dog. We all run the same tires after some experimenting.

I got the viper to try instead of my Tekin for craps and giggles. My slew is 1*/1000 right not. I lowered my acceleration timing cause at about 1/4 trigger pull its a VERY abrupt "hit".

I will play with the punch and pwm.

I just want it to not "hit" like a darn 500cc 2 stroke dirt bike =)

I am not complaining, just wanting to get the most out of it.



Viper motor with duo 3 17.5 win last weekend =)

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/h...t/photo-11.jpg

rtkota360 05-24-2011 07:31 PM

550 XL motors will be up on www.j2rcracing.com for preorder in the morning

pirape 05-24-2011 07:47 PM

Question for Viper RC

In the bigger ESC industry ( Ebikes, Esooters, ECars) we use Regenerative braking... Why dont you guys stand out of the pack and offer such thing?

it would be awesome regen braking for burst accelaration out of corners (4wd) would be crazy!


Looking fo ryour feedback

Dlewis4 05-24-2011 07:56 PM

Premierehobbies.com will have Pre-Order listing for the new 550 motors this week as well

http://www.premierehobbies.com/produ...-VST4.5XL.html
http://www.premierehobbies.com/produ...-VST5.5XL.html

rkhess 05-24-2011 08:37 PM

very impressed with the 10.5 540 can motor

chadsrt 05-24-2011 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by Dlewis4 (Post 9161079)
Premierehobbies.com will have Pre-Order listing for the new 550 motors this week as well

http://www.premierehobbies.com/produ...-VST4.5XL.html
http://www.premierehobbies.com/produ...-VST5.5XL.html

Just preordered a 4.5. Hopefully my Team Orange will hold up.

Dlewis4 05-24-2011 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by chadsrt (Post 9161435)
Just preordered a 4.5. Hopefully my Team Orange will hold up.

Thanks Chad! We got you put down for one!

rtkota360 05-24-2011 11:42 PM

http://shop.j2rcracing.com/Viper-RC_c2.htm store updated with viper products
Free shipping on orders over $100

Poptartninja 05-25-2011 08:59 AM

BBurns get ahold of me, "if" i cant race this weekend I will give you an extra esc to take with you just in case.


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