532LikesMotor Testing and Comparisons
11-11-2025 | 10:26 AM
#421
Oh, no problem, there are people willing to send me an engine and basically I do earn some extra money with it. I even have a guy on the other side of the world sending some engines from time to time. The problem in this world is that some big name can say/sell crap everyone believe/want it, if some normal guy with true knowledge does the same no one is interested. But I do hate that some higher level racer made a stand to measure timings a bit based on mine and a bit on one of another guy and some of his buyers do find me wanting to know more. More annoying is that he is not criticized by his customers about the lack of knowledge but that guy can make fun of of me.
I have seen several OS based engines from big named modifiers like Ielasi, ASM and Kabuto and all were just OS stock engines with some slight grind marks and hardly to non timing changes, the Kabuto even had a lower timed stock crankshaft. And yet, people love to pay 100 euro more getting that engine. Even Hasi with his customer engines has some timing changes but still there is much more room for more performance you as a simple customer do not get but I am pretty sure the teamdrivers from all those brands do get.
Although it is a weird world where the big names can say/do/sell everything I still get enough credits for my shared info and builds. And I am still proud I started the hype with FDR meters where once on the ETS 3 topdriver were send home thanx to one of my 1st build meters. Last even Fenix made a video about diff maintenance and did mention and use my diff plate polish tool.
I have seen several OS based engines from big named modifiers like Ielasi, ASM and Kabuto and all were just OS stock engines with some slight grind marks and hardly to non timing changes, the Kabuto even had a lower timed stock crankshaft. And yet, people love to pay 100 euro more getting that engine. Even Hasi with his customer engines has some timing changes but still there is much more room for more performance you as a simple customer do not get but I am pretty sure the teamdrivers from all those brands do get.
Although it is a weird world where the big names can say/do/sell everything I still get enough credits for my shared info and builds. And I am still proud I started the hype with FDR meters where once on the ETS 3 topdriver were send home thanx to one of my 1st build meters. Last even Fenix made a video about diff maintenance and did mention and use my diff plate polish tool.
So, for you to do something that would attack the integrity of their brand, would cause them to freakout and start bashing on you. Basically, they are saying "how dare you make something better than ours." As for stealing designs, that's all over this hobby. Heck, WMH Racing has had a few designs stolen from him without giving credit. I remember designing snow skis for the front of a buggy and RC car, back in the 80's, and less than a year later, the same company who asked me about them, started selling them. Heck, there's a couple car audio designs that were copied from me.
11-12-2025 | 01:19 PM
#423
No kidding.
I remember, back in the 90's, I was one of the top racers at our track. I was racing a Kyosho Triumph at the time. When I first showed up, a couple AE drivers gave me a ton of crap because I thew a Kyosho on the track. Things got really bad when I became a regular on the podium. They even faced off with me in the parking lot. My brother was there, and he wasn't having it, so it turned bad. The track owner saw what was going on and told those guys to never return. So stupid!
After seeing what goes on, in this forum, I was expecting backlash if I didn't praise certain brands.
11-19-2025 | 09:48 AM
#424
Tech Master
iTrader: (6)
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 1,418
From: San Jose CA
For the new open stator style motors - with partial cans on both ends - what is the proper way to measure temps? And is the max temp number different when measuring directly on the stator verses old style full cans?
11-19-2025 | 09:57 AM
#425
I believe most people will take the temp at the stator. The back endcap usually isn't that far off from the stator.
11-23-2025 | 09:32 PM
#426
I just finished doing a review on the Team Powers V5S. I know the V6S was just released, but they are pricey. I got a "Homie Discount" on the V5S, so I scooped it up. As I mentioned before, I took a long time to test the V5S because, to me, it appeared to be a Surpass V6 and it was already a pretty popular motor.
I will have the video up tonight, hopefully. I have already posted the numbers up on WMHRacing.com. The V5S performed very good in the review. When you look at the numbers, see if they compare to the Surpass. I'm hoping to have The Jerry results done by the end of the week.
Sorry, guys. I've been really busy.
I will have the video up tonight, hopefully. I have already posted the numbers up on WMHRacing.com. The V5S performed very good in the review. When you look at the numbers, see if they compare to the Surpass. I'm hoping to have The Jerry results done by the end of the week.
Sorry, guys. I've been really busy.
11-23-2025 | 09:38 PM
#427
I just finished doing a review on the Team Powers V5S. I know the V6S was just released, but they are pricey. I got a "Homie Discount" on the V5S, so I scooped it up. As I mentioned before, I took a long time to test the V5S because, to me, it appeared to be a Surpass V6 and it was already a pretty popular motor.
I will have the video up tonight, hopefully. I have already posted the numbers up on WMHRacing.com. The V5S performed very good in the review. When you look at the numbers, see if they compare to the Surpass. I'm hoping to have The Jerry results done by the end of the week.
Sorry, guys. I've been really busy.
I will have the video up tonight, hopefully. I have already posted the numbers up on WMHRacing.com. The V5S performed very good in the review. When you look at the numbers, see if they compare to the Surpass. I'm hoping to have The Jerry results done by the end of the week.
Sorry, guys. I've been really busy.
11-23-2025 | 10:08 PM
#428
So... I just ran through the gambit on a brand new Team Powers 25.5 V6S. This motor did something I can't quite explain, but it came alive at a timing mark, more than any motor than I have ever seen. And, I can't explain it. Like it makes no sense. I did a video of this, where I am rambling, I mean rambling trying to provide content during the video as I wanted to show a brand new motor being opened and show everything done.
I'm not really sure if I can post the video here though since it is kind of self promoting. Those who follow me on Youtube though, it will be up in the next day.
I'm not really sure if I can post the video here though since it is kind of self promoting. Those who follow me on Youtube though, it will be up in the next day.
11-24-2025 | 05:30 AM
#429
So... I just ran through the gambit on a brand new Team Powers 25.5 V6S. This motor did something I can't quite explain, but it came alive at a timing mark, more than any motor than I have ever seen. And, I can't explain it. Like it makes no sense. I did a video of this, where I am rambling, I mean rambling trying to provide content during the video as I wanted to show a brand new motor being opened and show everything done.
I'm not really sure if I can post the video here though since it is kind of self promoting. Those who follow me on Youtube though, it will be up in the next day.
I'm not really sure if I can post the video here though since it is kind of self promoting. Those who follow me on Youtube though, it will be up in the next day.
11-24-2025 | 06:21 AM
#430
Tech Lord
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 14,051
From: Holland
So... I just ran through the gambit on a brand new Team Powers 25.5 V6S. This motor did something I can't quite explain, but it came alive at a timing mark, more than any motor than I have ever seen. And, I can't explain it. Like it makes no sense. I did a video of this, where I am rambling, I mean rambling trying to provide content during the video as I wanted to show a brand new motor being opened and show everything done.
I'm not really sure if I can post the video here though since it is kind of self promoting. Those who follow me on Youtube though, it will be up in the next day.
I'm not really sure if I can post the video here though since it is kind of self promoting. Those who follow me on Youtube though, it will be up in the next day.
11-24-2025 | 08:12 AM
#431
11-24-2025 | 11:12 AM
#432
So... I just ran through the gambit on a brand new Team Powers 25.5 V6S. This motor did something I can't quite explain, but it came alive at a timing mark, more than any motor than I have ever seen. And, I can't explain it. Like it makes no sense. I did a video of this, where I am rambling, I mean rambling trying to provide content during the video as I wanted to show a brand new motor being opened and show everything done.
I'm not really sure if I can post the video here though since it is kind of self promoting. Those who follow me on Youtube though, it will be up in the next day.
I'm not really sure if I can post the video here though since it is kind of self promoting. Those who follow me on Youtube though, it will be up in the next day.
A couple month ago, I was messing around with the Load Master while adjusting the timing on a motor. Here's what I found:
- Without a load, the motors amp will start to spike after around 5.5 amps. This is where you would normally set your timing, just before the amp spike.
- Under a load, this all changes. If you drop the amps to a certain point, the loaded RPMs will go up, showing a peak torque spot on the motor.
- If you drop the timing too far, the RPM will make a more drastic drop.
11-24-2025 | 01:47 PM
#434
Well, I figured out what was happening with the motor during my video. One of the slave tabs was not contacting quite correctly and therefore there was less load. Really spooky how it only happened at the one timing mark, but yeah. I was up past my bed time and tired, had to look at it again today.
EDIT:
After a second run through I determined timing at 46* for my motor.
EDIT:
After a second run through I determined timing at 46* for my motor.
Last edited by trilerian; 11-24-2025 at 02:57 PM.
11-30-2025 | 06:42 AM
#435
Well, I figured out what was happening with the motor during my video. One of the slave tabs was not contacting quite correctly and therefore there was less load. Really spooky how it only happened at the one timing mark, but yeah. I was up past my bed time and tired, had to look at it again today.
EDIT:
After a second run through I determined timing at 46* for my motor.
EDIT:
After a second run through I determined timing at 46* for my motor.