That's what bugs me about the factory select/factory certified motors. for a few dollars more, these companies can order the torquier rotor, but they choose to offer it as a pricey upgrade. Heck, Surpass was selling their motors for less than $100 and the rotors were stronger than $150 motors.

There are also guys who rewind their motors with 15.5 turns instead of 17.5 turns while using a thicker wire.

Because Florida people are weird. I am sure it wasnt needed and it was monkey see monkey do so to speak.

. They can get a motor approved anytime they want BUT do you realize the cost to design a motor, retool for the stator, can, endbell, etc, buy the min from the factory so they will make it and then the cost involved getting it approved by not only roar but efra and ifmar (every two years)? To do that cost several several thousand dollars. They need to sell motors an average of 1.5 years to even break even on the initial cost! So I dont see this being an issue anymore than it already was.

. If you think it was a motor manufacture it was NOT. It was me that brought the idea to ROAR. Being IFMAR president and trying to get world wide rules on the same page this was a step. ROAR was the last one using different rules. Some areas of FEMCA or japan use different winde motors but they are slowly swtiching to Blinky speedo classes with same rules everyone else has.

EA

The way they get around set prices is by calling “Tuning” a service…..aka “LABOR” therefore they come under or right at said cap and the Gold/Certified/Team edition/or whatever the $180 motor is currently called still has its place. Its been done before and those of use that been in the hobby for a while already know whats coming.

What motor are you referring to with Hobbywing?

And ROAR already had a $150 limit that they never enforced when Trinity exceeded it.

There's a lot more to a motor than just IR.

I realize that, but it’s one spec that tends to be lower on faster motors of the same wind. I believe inductance plays as big or bigger role in performance. Nonetheless, if you have manufacturer’s constantly putting out the new “fast” motor, you’ll have racers buying it. I hope EA is correct here and it doesn’t have the impact I fear it will.

I was wrong. The G4 was release in April 2022 and the G4R was March 2024. I thought the G4 was 2023.

Inductance, IR, rotor strength, rotor diameter, rotor length, stator diameter, and stator length all have pretty much an equal importance to the performance of a motor. If the balance isn't right, you will get a motor that will overheat within the first two laps. I've jacked around with different rotors and cans and received all types of different data. When I crated an extremely fast a torquey and fast motor, it turned out to run extremely hot.

The biggest problem with removing the IR regulation is not being able to tell if someone has tampered with the windings of a motor. You will have racers come out with a custom wound 15.5 in a 17.5 race and/or a 11.5 in a 13.5 race.

The value of the motors will be recorded when inspected at ROAR. This number will then be posted on ROAR's site for each motor so that tracks and large races will know exactly what was submitted and legal. If its below that then its illegal. There is no variance. What is posted is the min resistance at 77F for that motor. If the motor is at a different temp there is a chart for copper resistance versus temp as its a direct correlation.

So it should be even easier for people to tech now than before.

EA

Not sure how it would make tech easier. Instead of having a universal minimum IR for a given wind of motor, the tech official must now look up the minimum IR for each motor they tech. Instead of needing to know four different minimum IRs (one each for 25.5, 21.5, 17.5 and 13.5 motors) you'll need access to the minimum IR for 139 different motors (the current number of approved 25.5, 21.5, 17.5 and 13.5 turn motors) and this list will grow as manufacturers submit new motors as we get closer to the September 2026 switchover. In addition to that, in many cases there are multiple versions of the same brand and wind motor. For example ORCA has three different approved versions of the Blitreme3 25.5 motor with three different minimum IR's.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that you're correct, EA!

When was the last time you had a motor teched? and what was the circumstances behind it?
For club racing, it won't matter. Trophy races? Maybe. Roar regional races and the worlds races, then it would matter, and it's on the Roar officials.
Otherwise, your just whinging just to whinge.

Yes, we do travel to regional races. Planning on going to on road carpet Nats in March. Not sure what "whingeing" is.

A dictionary, or Google can answer that for you.