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Old 07-12-2014 | 06:16 AM
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It is 100% syntetic oil and this fuel is very new, i believe it's from UK and it have won a lot of championships. Internationals i dont know!!, but it's said to be as good as the Byron race fuel. Why they use 12% syntetic oil, i have no idea, im have only heard extremly good comments about this race fuel. as far i am conserned this fuel is not well known in the US , but in scandinavia and england this fuel is starting to be the fuel who is most popular. The most shitiest fuel i ever drived is Jero Glo (But that fuel got me into 1/8 nitro car driving. I bought a Inferno mp 7.5 sports and was sold seeing the car in full action even with that fuel, because i didn't know better)then i started up with Model teqnicues race and dynalago fuel and i quite liked it, after a couple of years our own local hobby store change fuel into Rapicon fuel, i ran 25% with 9 % nitro and i think it was ok, not better then or bader then MT, it did its job, after that i tried out some cars of some friends of mine, MFR and Byron and i was impressed over most of what they achieved,run times, speed etc...I mostly drive Nova or RB engines and have a big passion for fast nitro buggies. The Piranha fuel did'nt gave me a waaaa ipression the first time i tried in one of my Nova engines who actually is the most pissed of engine i hav ve beside my Toto Nero Team, but on the 3 tank the fuel started to really improve speed and power after 5 tanks all i have to tell to myself this is the best fueli have ever driven, no problems holding the tune (compared) to other brands even if norway is known to have a lot of low and high terrain, moisture always changing becuseof weather, i have to tell u this couse usually never have problems tuning engines. The Piranaha fuel is sick with that and when it comes to speed, even my Plus.21 4BTT started to act like a sick 7 ports beast. So please you tell me what it is with this fuel that is so good, since u were a litle negative to my"Statement" about this fuel yesterday. BTW do you know about pipes and headers to the Novarossi Bonito 7xlbs how does the 9886 pipe works with a 41021 header when it comes to speed? I am asking you couse i cant reach Huoston at the moment and this is rather importand
Regarding bonito or toro nero, i asked few times and most ppl tell me go for 41021 n 9901,hope it help but i not yet tested with my rex paloma.
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Old 07-13-2014 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by cczjordan
Regarding bonito or toro nero, i asked few times and most ppl tell me go for 41021 n 9901,hope it help but i not yet tested with my rex paloma.
9901/41021 is the pipes/headers i always have used on my Bonito and my Toro engines.
Perfect for allround use. All i wonder if the 9886 works with the 41021 header. I am
going to try a speed test with one of my cars. Up with some tooths from 15-18(19)
another clutch, venturi from 6.5-7.5. It could be fatal for the engine but i am willing to try it.

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Old 07-13-2014 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr spoony
9901/41021 is the pipes/headers i always have used on my Bonito and my Toro engines.
Perfect for allround use. All i wonder if the 9886 works with the 41021 header. I am
going to try a speed test with one of my cars. Up with some tooths from 15-18(19)
another clutch, venturi from 6.5-7.5. It could be fatal for the engine but i am willing to try it.
Nice, ur feedback will be very appreciated
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Old 07-14-2014 | 06:51 PM
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Hi guys,
Fairly new to nitro-just completed our first nitro buggy with a Werks B5 in it--great motor and no complaints--just always wanted to try a Nova--am thinking the Keep Off 4 for bug and the Keep Off 7 for trug--question is are the 7 porters any more "touchy" for tuning? Thanks!
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Old 07-15-2014 | 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Dr spoony
9901/41021 is the pipes/headers i always have used on my Bonito and my Toro engines.
Perfect for allround use. All i wonder if the 9886 works with the 41021 header. I am
going to try a speed test with one of my cars. Up with some tooths from 15-18(19)
another clutch, venturi from 6.5-7.5. It could be fatal for the engine but i am willing to try it.
To get insane power/speed out of a 9886/OFNA086 pipe, you'll need a very short header - shorter than 41021.
Some engines don't run well on that pipe though :-)
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Old 07-20-2014 | 11:50 PM
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Once again the EFRA 2032 pipe and Novarossi 41001 header proved to be a perfect match for my old BTT engine at a race yesterday. Best mileage of all engines at the race, all the bottom I could ask for, and a top speed that no other drivers could match - and thats with a 6 mm venturi. Buttersmooth powerband
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Old 07-21-2014 | 07:23 PM
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I just picked up a used Toro that is like new. I know this engine has been discontinued but my question is do any of the curent engines share the same parts as this one?
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Old 07-22-2014 | 07:45 AM
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Need advise, i bought an engine from ebay and is NEW, i noticed that the crank shaft show some play like 2-3mm meaning when u push/pull from front side bearing, it show some play. This is the first engine i bought with this problem so can it be use? Before i send back or ask for replacement... Thanks in advance
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Old 07-22-2014 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by cczjordan
Need advise, i bought an engine from ebay and is NEW, i noticed that the crank shaft show some play like 2-3mm meaning when u push/pull from front side bearing, it show some play. This is the first engine i bought with this problem so can it be use? Before i send back or ask for replacement... Thanks in advance
that is normal.... The crankshaft wont be locked into place until you install the flywheel....
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Old 07-22-2014 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Maximo
that is normal.... The crankshaft wont be locked into place until you install the flywheel....
Really? cox this is the first time i get this engine with so much free play
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Old 07-22-2014 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Maximo
that is normal.... The crankshaft wont be locked into place until you install the flywheel....
Sorted out, thank you so much
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Old 07-23-2014 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by jhold87
I just picked up a used Toro that is like new. I know this engine has been discontinued but my question is do any of the curent engines share the same parts as this one?
They made 3 versions of the Tero Nero...the base with a standard plug, a turbo plug version and the Team version. For the turbo and team...a few parts such as plugs,head button/o-ring/shims, carb, cinch bolt, crank, bearings and conrod are shared with the Bonito. As for Keep Off XL, same items except rear bearings are different.

The piston/sleeve/rod set from Toro Nero Team engine is very close to Bonito & Keep Off XL. The part numbers are 08567-T10 vs. 08567-T11 and upon inquiring to the folks at Novarossi in Italy, they stated the sleeves are slightly different but will work in either engine.

Hope this helps
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Old 07-23-2014 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Lille-bror
Once again the EFRA 2032 pipe and Novarossi 41001 header proved to be a perfect match for my old BTT engine at a race yesterday. Best mileage of all engines at the race, all the bottom I could ask for, and a top speed that no other drivers could match - and thats with a 6 mm venturi. Buttersmooth powerband
I have a 41030 header for my Mugen, is that the same as a 41001 header? couse i also have a 2032 pipe somewhere stored in my house. I also have a 2045/198 combo that i use in my RB WS7 L2G and a S7 L2G. I have some racing engines that would be fun messing around with different pipes. So if you have any good ideas, here is the Racing engines i have: Novarossi Bonito 7XLBS, RB WS7 L2G, RB S7 L2G, Novarossi Pluss.21-4Btt, Novarossi Toro nero Team i actually owned 2 toro neros but a bastard stoled one of them, and then i have a team orion 3 port engine i bought used, so i don't know what type Team orion 3 p it is, probably from 2009. i Forgot to mention that i have 2 9901/41021 pipe combos and a 9886 pipe, So if you or other people have some good ideas about combos that is very good based on the engines, Pipes and headers i have, let me know Today i am going to try out on my Xray XB9'13 a 17T clutchbell in My Bonito 7xlbs where i normaly use a 15T, the stock one is 13 but the Bonito is to strong to use a 13t it will only do wheelies and spin all to much so i have to use a 15T the bottom is still very very strong but driveable and offcourse the speed has increased a lot , but anyway im going to test out a 17t to see how fast it goes, i could have tried out a 19t but then i have to drill out more space in the chassis that holds the engine mount. With the 15T i use normaly in my xray have a peak speed that holds 68 kph with the 9901/41021 combo ((I use a Skyrc Gps) with the BHP the Bonito holds im sure i can give fulll throttle from the start, but if it was a 19 i think i would have been very carefull with the throttle from the start. Yes it is fun to see how fast this nitro racing engines can be and the bottom who can be faster then a el powered offroad car.
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Old 07-23-2014 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by scrapsz
They made 3 versions of the Tero Nero...the base with a standard plug, a turbo plug version and the Team version. For the turbo and team...a few parts such as plugs,head button/o-ring/shims, carb, cinch bolt, crank, bearings and conrod are shared with the Bonito. As for Keep Off XL, same items except rear bearings are different.

The piston/sleeve/rod set from Toro Nero Team engine is very close to Bonito & Keep Off XL. The part numbers are 08567-T10 vs. 08567-T11 and upon inquiring to the folks at Novarossi in Italy, they stated the sleeves are slightly different but will work in either engine.

Hope this helps
Thanks alot!
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Old 07-23-2014 | 11:19 AM
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Sorry, I have only tried the pipe on Novarossi Plus 4, Plus4 Team and BTT. Maybe AM from Norway can help you with the other engines.

The 41030 is much longer than the 41001 and not bended so I doubt it will suit the the 2032.

Use the shortest header you have with the 9886


Originally Posted by Dr spoony
I have a 41030 header for my Mugen, is that the same as a 41001 header? couse i also have a 2032 pipe somewhere stored in my house. I also have a 2045/198 combo that i use in my RB WS7 L2G and a S7 L2G. I have some racing engines that would be fun messing around with different pipes. So if you have any good ideas, here is the Racing engines i have: Novarossi Bonito 7XLBS, RB WS7 L2G, RB S7 L2G, Novarossi Pluss.21-4Btt, Novarossi Toro nero Team i actually owned 2 toro neros but a bastard stoled one of them, and then i have a team orion 3 port engine i bought used, so i don't know what type Team orion 3 p it is, probably from 2009. i Forgot to mention that i have 2 9901/41021 pipe combos and a 9886 pipe, So if you or other people have some good ideas about combos that is very good based on the engines, Pipes and headers i have, let me know Today i am going to try out on my Xray XB9'13 a 17T clutchbell in My Bonito 7xlbs where i normaly use a 15T, the stock one is 13 but the Bonito is to strong to use a 13t it will only do wheelies and spin all to much so i have to use a 15T the bottom is still very very strong but driveable and offcourse the speed has increased a lot , but anyway im going to test out a 17t to see how fast it goes, i could have tried out a 19t but then i have to drill out more space in the chassis that holds the engine mount. With the 15T i use normaly in my xray have a peak speed that holds 68 kph with the 9901/41021 combo ((I use a Skyrc Gps) with the BHP the Bonito holds im sure i can give fulll throttle from the start, but if it was a 19 i think i would have been very carefull with the throttle from the start. Yes it is fun to see how fast this nitro racing engines can be and the bottom who can be faster then a el powered offroad car.
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