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Old 11-25-2013 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Eivind E
So guys, question..
Have I diagnosed this correctly if I think it is a leaky front bearing?

-P5XLT engine freshly pinched, only break-in done, new conrod, good crank
-irratic idle, sounds like motorboating "woooorrr wooorrr wooorrr" rather than one continuous stable sound
-at first engine ran fine, but towards the end of the day kept choking, despite being ran sufficiently lean
-seems to be carburated fine, but then after 1/4th lap on the track chokes for no apparent reason
-engine has truckloads of compression obviously
-front bearing is cheapo €4 ebay bearing

I'm thinking this means the cheapo front bearing has let go? Even if it has only less than 1 gallon on it.
Nova fr. Bearing 17011 you could have other problems such as air leaks from fuel system or carb. I always pressure test those under water to be certain.
That would rule out most lean conditions.
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Old 11-26-2013 | 01:00 AM
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What's a ball park btta needle seeting
I run 30 vp 11 percent
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Old 11-26-2013 | 01:01 AM
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What's a ball park btta needle seeting
I run 30 vp 11 percent
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Old 11-26-2013 | 01:34 AM
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What's a ball park btta needle seeting
I run 30 vp 11 percent
Running the white 6mm venturi I'm just under flush on both high and low.

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Old 11-26-2013 | 02:16 AM
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Yea cool thanks bud I haven't run the 6 mm one yet
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Old 11-26-2013 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by houston
whoevers idea it was to put one of those cheap ass ones off of ebay on there it was a bad one
I put my hands up, take me off to rehab, I've been a bad bad boy!

I just thought I'd save a few $$$ on the cheapass ebay bearing, actually I got 4pcs for €4.. so that should have been a clue. Lasted 2.5-3 litres, so not even a gallon! But hey, lesson learnt.

Have ordered proper bearing now from Amain.
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Old 11-26-2013 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Eivind E
I put my hands up, take me off to rehab, I've been a bad bad boy!

I just thought I'd save a few $$$ on the cheapass ebay bearing, actually I got 4pcs for €4.. so that should have been a clue. Lasted 2.5-3 litres, so not even a gallon! But hey, lesson learnt.

Have ordered proper bearing now from Amain.
17011 is the best front bearing period

dare I say this on the nova thread but the front bearing from reedy is actually very good in its sealing capability also

viva la novarossi !!
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Old 11-27-2013 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by houston
17011 is the best front bearing period

dare I say this on the nova thread but the front bearing from reedy is actually very good in its sealing capability also

viva la novarossi !!
Well the thing is, to install the 17011 then I need to tap the front of the collet on my Hudy tool, well that's what I think anyway, since it protrudes 0.3mm.

So I've ordered some NTN 607LH the blue one that's used on the XZ-B. I know LLH is NTN-speak for special seal against debris entering. What do you think about that bearing?
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Old 11-27-2013 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Eivind E
Well the thing is, to install the 17011 then I need to tap the front of the collet on my Hudy tool
Or you can just get a washer that's big enough to fit over the centre race... Or do what I did get a piece of lexan an ream out a hole to fit over the centre race
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Old 11-27-2013 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by kgombe
get a piece of lexan an ream out a hole to fit over the centre race
that's a brilliant idea!
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Old 11-27-2013 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Eivind E
that's a brilliant idea!
Me brilliant.. Awe shucks...
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Not too hard
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Old 11-28-2013 | 09:01 AM
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Other Q, got a Nova carb off P5XL that's been laying around on my table for about 2 months, now when I try the action on the slide it's like it has a notch sort of halfway, what would be the cause of this? could there be any oil gunked up, or does it mean it could have taken a knock or something?
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Old 11-28-2013 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Eivind E
Other Q, got a Nova carb off P5XL that's been laying around on my table for about 2 months, now when I try the action on the slide it's like it has a notch sort of halfway, what would be the cause of this? could there be any oil gunked up, or does it mean it could have taken a knock or something?
undo the barrel stop screw (idle) and remove the barrel , look around the slide recess's where the stop screw rides for damage . often times some good "lawn darts" while on throttle will wreak havoc on the slide barrel as well as the rod , the piston , etc. , etc.

take it all apart and reoil it anyway Elvind , it should be smooth again
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Old 11-28-2013 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by houston
undo the barrel stop screw (idle) and remove the barrel , look around the slide recess's where the stop screw rides for damage . often times some good "lawn darts" while on throttle will wreak havoc on the slide barrel as well as the rod , the piston , etc. , etc.

take it all apart and reoil it anyway Elvind , it should be smooth again
I took it apart, and the slide looks fine, moves fine, everything seems fine. But as soon as I put the rubber boot back on it develops that notchy feel mid way through the motion. Does that mean the rubber boot is at fault?
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