NOVAROSSI Engine thread....
#4352
#4354
you gonna try the "insert" crankpin method?
i am real skeptical of that
i have seen two cranks that have had that done , it worked but something just says "red flag" to me on that
rick brake used to but might still turn down the crank pin round again and insert new rod bushingto match with the standard factory clearances , that worked pretty well also
i am real skeptical of that
i have seen two cranks that have had that done , it worked but something just says "red flag" to me on that rick brake used to but might still turn down the crank pin round again and insert new rod bushingto match with the standard factory clearances , that worked pretty well also
#4355
Tech Master
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,628
So, I disassembled the 21-4C that was giving me a hard time the other day, and there were a couple of minor suprizes.
One thing was there was a massive ammount of carbon buildup, in the ports there was what I'd describe as a .5 mil thick layer of crud with some actual lumps, on the rod there was a layer of carbon, in the combustion chamber/button head there was a thick layer of crud again around the circle around where the plug sits, and on top of the piston there was an unusually thick layer of crud which seemed to be sort of sandy/uneven in texture.
The sleeve was stuck on the button head, and I mean really stuck, I couldn't get it off it. Is this normal?
Then for the sake of it I measured the lower hole on the rod, and it was 4.99mm from side to side, and 5.05mm from top to bottom, does this say anything about use?
Anyhow, I figure this engine seems to have seen some use? am I right?
One thing was there was a massive ammount of carbon buildup, in the ports there was what I'd describe as a .5 mil thick layer of crud with some actual lumps, on the rod there was a layer of carbon, in the combustion chamber/button head there was a thick layer of crud again around the circle around where the plug sits, and on top of the piston there was an unusually thick layer of crud which seemed to be sort of sandy/uneven in texture.
The sleeve was stuck on the button head, and I mean really stuck, I couldn't get it off it. Is this normal?
Then for the sake of it I measured the lower hole on the rod, and it was 4.99mm from side to side, and 5.05mm from top to bottom, does this say anything about use?
Anyhow, I figure this engine seems to have seen some use? am I right?
#4356
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From: Louisiana
I'm looking for my first Nova engine. I've been looking at the 4btt for my mugen mbx6r. Is this a good one bone stock or should I get a modded one. Any of you guys have experience both stock and mod. Is it worth it
Thanks
Steven
Thanks
Steven
#4357
you gonna try the "insert" crankpin method?
i am real skeptical of that
i have seen two cranks that have had that done , it worked but something just says "red flag" to me on that
rick brake used to but might still turn down the crank pin round again and insert new rod bushingto match with the standard factory clearances , that worked pretty well also
i am real skeptical of that
i have seen two cranks that have had that done , it worked but something just says "red flag" to me on that rick brake used to but might still turn down the crank pin round again and insert new rod bushingto match with the standard factory clearances , that worked pretty well also
#4358
depends what you are after.... stock they are quite nice, they have good bottom/midrange and a reasonable top end...... Some people love them the way they are, others find them to be a little too mild....I cant speak for others but my modified version is a pretty substantial bump in power and RPM over stock....bottom end we gain a little, midrange we gain a fair bit and the top end of the modified absolutely sings compared to stock.......The modified version carries all the same characteristics as stock, except its a whole pile faster......... Some love them the way they are, others will like the modified version better..... just depends on how much juice you want .
#4359
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depends what you are after.... stock they are quite nice, they have good bottom/midrange and a reasonable top end...... Some people love them the way they are, others find them to be a little too mild....I cant speak for others but my modified version is a pretty substantial bump in power and RPM over stock....bottom end we gain a little, midrange we gain a fair bit and the top end of the modified absolutely sings compared to stock.......The modified version carries all the same characteristics as stock, except its a whole pile faster......... Some love them the way they are, others will like the modified version better..... just depends on how much juice you want .
Thanks Maximo. Can I pm you on what I want as I don't want this to become a war on motors.
#4361
So, I disassembled the 21-4C that was giving me a hard time the other day, and there were a couple of minor suprizes.
One thing was there was a massive ammount of carbon buildup, in the ports there was what I'd describe as a .5 mil thick layer of crud with some actual lumps, on the rod there was a layer of carbon, in the combustion chamber/button head there was a thick layer of crud again around the circle around where the plug sits, and on top of the piston there was an unusually thick layer of crud which seemed to be sort of sandy/uneven in texture.
The sleeve was stuck on the button head, and I mean really stuck, I couldn't get it off it. Is this normal?
Then for the sake of it I measured the lower hole on the rod, and it was 4.99mm from side to side, and 5.05mm from top to bottom, does this say anything about use?
Anyhow, I figure this engine seems to have seen some use? am I right?
One thing was there was a massive ammount of carbon buildup, in the ports there was what I'd describe as a .5 mil thick layer of crud with some actual lumps, on the rod there was a layer of carbon, in the combustion chamber/button head there was a thick layer of crud again around the circle around where the plug sits, and on top of the piston there was an unusually thick layer of crud which seemed to be sort of sandy/uneven in texture.
The sleeve was stuck on the button head, and I mean really stuck, I couldn't get it off it. Is this normal?
Then for the sake of it I measured the lower hole on the rod, and it was 4.99mm from side to side, and 5.05mm from top to bottom, does this say anything about use?
Anyhow, I figure this engine seems to have seen some use? am I right?
Dont know about the rod and crankshaft pin
#4363
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Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,628
I'm just trying to evaluate whether this engine "has had it" or not.
#4364
#4365
Ambient temp between 15 and 25ºC.
3 tank at idle speed.
The next 4 tanks with a little more throttle after each tank so you start the 7th tank at 50% speed. The last 8th tank with various RPM and no full speed runs for more than a second or so at a time.
Maybe an extra shim under the head.
This is how I do it.
Last edited by Lille-bror; 10-18-2012 at 07:50 AM.



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