They will also void any warranty if you do not use a Novarossi fuel gun. Just kidding I am sure Os would also void a warranty if something other than a Os plug was used also.

Rex

So Novarossi is mad that some of us are using OS plugs rather than Nova plugs.

Isn't the warranty void anyway if you mod an engine?

U guys can use wtvr plug u want but guaranteed the is plug will deform the head button

It doesnt really matter if i sell anything , my whole goal is to help racers , PERIOD!

No they are not

U use what you think is right but os plugs in nova engine is not right
Yes it is

AND You do a wonderful Job at that. Thank you very much for Being here for Me! ( I don't want to speak for anyone else.)

You know how i roll Keith

Wasn't mad he was just following there in house rules as everyone know getting a motor fixed under warranty is hard unless you have very specific reason / cause ie needs to be new or barely.

They sell plugs and I'm pretty sure they design them around there engines- well I hope. If Nova responds then its from the manufacture they make these friggen engines therefore they have a team of professional at there disposal . I'm not saying Houston or CRE is wrong these guys have a wealth of information and knowledge and i respect there opinions, life experiences and knowledge but there is a debate.

The bottom line if it does cause damage then all Nova owners should be aware if it doesn't then its a great tuning option and my opinion is wrong. I will give a OS plug a try if that's the case.

Neil knows its stuff as Monty these debates at times get personal then people form there opinions therefore its important.

When I've mentioned this supposed debate in German forums or at races, everybody's kind of like "what are you talking about? Of course I run a P3 in Novarossi (and Picco - same debate a couple years back..) engines.." Not newbs either. But the kinds of people who take racing so seriously that it actually puts me off racing.. Guys who have been racing for years, travelling all over the country in camper vans, chasing those all-coveted "points" or whatever.. Sponsored guys.. This supposed issue is a non-issue in the rest of the world as far as I can tell. And again, RMV Germany was recommending the OS P3 for the RB(Novarossi based) Fire 11 engine (if you run Tornado fuel...) on their official website - yes, an RB company recommending OS plugs, because the stock plug made idle and tuning difficult*.. RMV are the ones selling (and putting together afaik) the Blast engines - and Daniel Reckward is not some newb..

Anyway, a favorite saying of mine: "Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies"...

* I let myself be swayed and went with the anti-OS flow and got NR C5TGC's for mine, even though they weren't that easy to come by, and I already had OS plugs...

Popped a os p4 plug today. Couldnt find another one and was forced to use a werks 5 - my goodness the engine was way off tune and idled like a pig after the switch. FACT!

Its not personal anything for me Jay , in case you forgot i have been supporting novarossi for a very long time


The plug bs is not a "debate" , it is 100% fact

I cant believe you are still arguing over glowplugs LOL .... Some people here obviously got something a little extra to prove or something...

My take on it is this.... I Have seen heads leak for crossing over plugs, but that was on the old GRP Ninja`s.......... I personally run Nova or Werks plugs and so do 90% of my locals............. I Have however recently seen several people run OS plugs in the Nova`s......... I told them it would damage the head,....one did not believe me and gave me a button to measure... upon measuring I could measure absolutely zero changes in the Nova button from running a OS plug............So either he did not damage the head, or the damage is so minute that we cannot visibly see it or measure it........So pretty hard for me to accept anything as fact if it lacks any validated proof.....

Now if somebody can actually show some physical proof I may change my stance on this...but so far all I see is Monty beating his chest how its fact, but like usual offers absolutely zero proof other than `because I said so `....Monty dude, I don't care what you say, until you offer some tangible evidence one way or the other your just whistling Dixie as usual ...

Myself I don't care much, I have nothing to prove or gain and obviously the guys using the OS plugs are running great and that is all that matters to me in the end....If someone does manage to damage a head button they can also contact me and we can give them a good deal on a replacement button....We are very well stocked here at CRE and are always willing to help, even when someone does something we don't recommend....

I Am eagerly awaiting to see what Rex finds....as he is well tooled and capable of measuring any changes that may be made to the head button by running OS plugs..... I will take what Rex says over what anyone says simply because Rex is an actual tool and die maker with proper measuring equipment and techniques....If he can`t find a measurable change then it does`t exist..and if there is a change, he will find it.... I was unable to detect any change myself...


And to be clear, we sell and recommend Nova plugs in our Novarossi engines........

Thank you for your valuable input Monty.

Now I'm going to go put a Ford engine in my Chevy truck, and then I'll take it to the Chevy dealer when it has an engine problem and tell them to fix it.

Funny thing is that there are really two different topics of discussions going on over the plug dealio , one is that os plugs work in nova engines ,of course they do , that was never argued , the other is that they deform the nova head buttons which i guarantee they do , i dont need measurements (its actually a very hard measurement to make) as it it is on the ledge where the seal happens

Run an os plug in your nova head button (your decision) , run your engine for a while , puull plug out , run your fingernail in the combustion bowl , you will feel that the end of the tapered seal area now has been pushed in , now run a novarossi plug in the button , you will see that end of the taper on the plug doesnot meet up with the head buttons combustion bowl at the end of the taper

Happy motorin'

Enjoy your novarossi made engine however you feel suit , viva la nova!

Just trying to make others aware of potential damage when they use OS plugs. Again, OS plugs will work fine if that is all you use.

Fun "FACT" for the day: One of our local Novarossi Factory drivers was told by novarossi to use two different buttons. One for C5tgc and the other for C6tgc.
and they have the exact taper so i told him that it didnt make any sense. but who am i to say the factory is wrong.

You guys can run what you want I have decided that I am going to just put in a helicoil and run a 4 stroke plug

I've decided that the guys that want to run OS plugs will and those of us that want to run Nova, or similar, plugs will. To each his own. As long as my Nova runs like a champ with the Nova Plugs, I will continue to purchase Nova plugs with each order so I have stock. I don't know how much an OS plugs cost but a Nova is probably only a couple $ more. TO EACH HIS OWN.

I can tell you this, the Nova's that run at our track always run strong and finish heats and mains. BTW all these motors have only had Nova plugs in them.