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RCTecher12 07-12-2018 12:58 PM

Colder plugs usually give a little more power because they allow a sharper tune. Besides the filament, how much heat the plug body retains has an effect too.

HaulinBass 07-12-2018 04:08 PM

If someone is having tuning issue with a bit of a wonky idle that kinda started out of know where would you guys check the bearings or the fuel tank/line first
Engine has never been opened after sealing, all exhaust seals are new. Engine ran like a clock untill we made one of our jumps close to 40 feet of distance and i cased it a few times. The block has no visible cracks and no fuel/dirt build up indicating a leak. Slight bit of weeping on the front bearing, not enough to notice untill you pull the flywheel.

Roelof 07-12-2018 11:19 PM

The clutch itself or a bad clutch bearing?

houston 07-13-2018 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by HaulinBass (Post 15260473)
If someone is having tuning issue with a bit of a wonky idle that kinda started out of know where would you guys check the bearings or the fuel tank/line first
Engine has never been opened after sealing, all exhaust seals are new. Engine ran like a clock untill we made one of our jumps close to 40 feet of distance and i cased it a few times. The block has no visible cracks and no fuel/dirt build up indicating a leak. Slight bit of weeping on the front bearing, not enough to notice untill you pull the flywheel.

you try cleaning out the high speed needle intake?

coulda cracked the filter or dislodged some debris and sent it through the carburetor..... it happens .... more often than most think



HaulinBass 07-13-2018 01:26 PM

I think your onto something monty, i did forget to cap the inlet when i pulled the motor to check the clutch that day and it was dusty as hell.

Cain 07-16-2018 11:26 AM

Anyone know a reasonable temp range for a Paloma .21 . From what I was told she went rich basically as she finished up breaking in at the track. Temps went down a lot from about 269 to about 210 it seemed like so looking to start doing a bit more race tune but not sure what are normal temps to look for.

Also, any suggestions on a decent temp gun I am all ears.

HaulinBass 07-16-2018 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by HaulinBass (Post 15260897)
I think your onto something monty, i did forget to cap the inlet when i pulled the motor to check the clutch that day and it was dusty as hell.

well cleaned to carb and checked all the orings, still idles all over the place.tried a different pipe and a few manifolds. Its gotta be the fuel system,

houston 07-17-2018 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by HaulinBass (Post 15262296)
well cleaned to carb and checked all the orings, still idles all over the place.tried a different pipe and a few manifolds. Its gotta be the fuel system,

what brand of tank ?

am 07-23-2018 09:27 AM

Try and spray brekaeclean on the front bearing. You may have an airleak or worn out bearing. just a short burst.

banana rt 07-30-2018 04:10 AM

need advice choosing nova engine here
keep off
virtus off
mito 40
mito 70
mantra

best performance based on u guys ever experience,,

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am 07-31-2018 01:10 AM

Only tried the Mantra, good smooth engine.

alex_blais 07-31-2018 08:14 PM

Hi guys,
Just curious if the 41001 manifold from ND is the same as Amain as they look completely different?
https://www.amainhobbies.com/novarossi-41001-medium-off-road-manifold-nvr41001/p176693
http://www.novarossidirect.com/41001_p_2618.html


Also, I was curious if the Paloma 21 ltd is still a good deal at 159$ or do the prices usually decrease after the racing season is over?

Thanks,

Cain 08-01-2018 11:34 AM

I am curious if they still have more as I heard prior to purchase there were only a few left and they weren't getting any more.

egobrkr 08-01-2018 01:28 PM

The Paloma is a decent engine for the price but the Rolling is a much nicer engine for the extra $50 if you want a 7port. Any of the 5ports are also a good choice. I am using the Rolling in a buggy right now and really enjoying it. I have an Adam Drake edition 5port that has also been a great engine in buggy and now I have it in my truck. I have also ran the keep-off 4port. It was a great little engine in buggy. Just keep in mind that the extra $30-$50 more for some of the newer engines are well worth it.

banana rt 08-01-2018 05:08 PM

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rct...ede2dfe8f2.jpg

soo excited
perhaps will be my best friend for next race season. question here, which venturi should be use? and how many tanks for factory break engine before go to race tuning? what method theyre using on factory breakin, is it EBIS?
thx guys

alex_blais 08-01-2018 08:23 PM


Originally Posted by egobrkr (Post 15271659)
The Paloma is a decent engine for the price but the Rolling is a much nicer engine for the extra $50 if you want a 7port. Any of the 5ports are also a good choice. I am using the Rolling in a buggy right now and really enjoying it. I have an Adam Drake edition 5port that has also been a great engine in buggy and now I have it in my truck. I have also ran the keep-off 4port. It was a great little engine in buggy. Just keep in mind that the extra $30-$50 more for some of the newer engines are well worth it.

How is it better, the Paloma is doing over 11 minutes and has lots of power according to this thread and post #74
https://www.rctech.net/forum/offroad...edition-5.html
And seems to be running for 7+ gallons.
Is the rolling able to do 12-13 minutes?
My track is technical with no long straights and running a buggy.

Thanks

jersey 08-03-2018 08:19 PM

Mileage can vary person to person on same track with same setup.

RandyJones 08-04-2018 06:31 AM

Question for you Nova guys. We have a Rolling for truck. What are some good pipe combos?

HaulinBass 08-04-2018 08:56 AM

41005/9901 makes for a fairly easy to drive setup and super easy to tune,41001/9901 makes it agressive and quite punchy. 41021/9901 gets a decent runtime but feels a little flat. 41001/2096 i really like but gets a little less runtime than the 9901 setups.
my buddy has the 41021/2096 setup on his in buggy and it seems to tame it down quite well to run in buggy

egobrkr 08-04-2018 12:44 PM

On my Rolling I have used 41021/9853(lots of power)and 41021/9901(good power and mileage)and 41021/9886( lots of top end not the greatest mileage). These are just my findings and opinions. I like the 41021/9901 the best for the all around balance between power and mileage. 41021/9853 would be my second choice.

RandyJones 08-04-2018 12:49 PM

Thanks guys!!

gonz147 08-07-2018 08:17 AM

keep off parts
 
Hi

I have an old keep off 21-4 engine. I've heard that I can use mito 4 parts. Looking in the exploded views the rod, the piston pin and the front bearing are the same. Anyone know if I can use the piston, the sleeve and the rear bearing?

thanks

bretto107 08-19-2018 04:44 AM

Can i remove shims for from the Mantra? If so which one?

NitroVein 08-19-2018 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by bretto107 (Post 15282353)
Can i remove shims for from the Mantra? If so which one?

I wouldn't drop it more then 0,05 mm with a stock head, so you should replace a 0,2 mm shim with a 0,15 mm.

CBren32 08-19-2018 11:18 AM

Hey guys, in the process of building a new Truggy that I am going to make it an on-road truck. Stiff suspension, thick diffs, modded engine, Alum C-cups, tonnns more. I am in the market for a new engine, just not sure what I am going to pick up. It's going to be a drag/on-road Truggy, but not going to just throw handling out the window just for some extra MPH on the radar. I need suggestions on what to put in there for sheer poweeeer and I want the reliability of a Novarossi. Should I be looking at the on-road .21's or should I be looking at the .28's for the weight of a truggy? Thanks guys, hope someone can point me on the right path.

Pedro Jesus 09-02-2018 10:27 AM

Hello
And the following friends have a Novarossi Engine Rebrand (RB Products).
After a few years with the engine stopped, yesterday to remove the screw that holds the carburetor to the block, I split the screw head, and now where can I find a screw that of in my RB, a Novarossi screw is compatible?
And to dismantle the carburetor the rubber that has the left side in the engine simply fell apart in two, if you buy the rubber Novarossi gives in my RB?


Thank You

Roelof 09-02-2018 12:00 PM

Yes, the screw is standard on all novarossi models, you can also try to get an M2.5 screw which it actually is.

Pedro Jesus 09-02-2018 02:35 PM

[QUOTE = Roelof; 15291425]. Sim, o parafuso é padrão em todos os modelos Novarossi, você pode também tentar obter um parafuso M2.5 que ele realmente é [/ QUOTE]

Thanks Roelof, I'll try to buy here in a tool house.
And in relation to the needle rubber of the carburetor LSN has to be even Novarossi right?

Thank You
*

Roelof 09-02-2018 03:00 PM


Originally Posted by Pedro Jesus (Post 15291499)
[QUOTE = Roelof; 15291425]. Sim, o parafuso é padrão em todos os modelos Novarossi, você pode também tentar obter um parafuso M2.5 que ele realmente é [/ QUOTE]

Thanks Roelof, I'll try to buy here in a tool house.
And in relation to the needle rubber of the carburetor LSN has to be even Novarossi right?

Thank You
*

The O-rings are also the same. In case of emergency on the track I will cut a thin slice of a fuel tube what works perfectly as an O-ring

Cardiak 09-02-2018 06:45 PM

Alright so I'm trying to get my 28-8 completely tuned. I thought I had it dialed until today I took it it and got it up to temp and made several high speed passes. The idle was pretty much a 3 step instead of a 2 step. If I had let it come in and sit for 4 seconds or longer after a WOT pass, it would be loaded up and kind of sluggish once I hammered the throttle for the first couple of feet. From my knowledge, I should be able to bring it in and let it idle for 10 or more seconds and still get a clean pull unless it's an excessive amount of time idling. So I leaned my LSN and backed off on the idle screw. My idle gap is somewhere between .5 and .7. I eventually got it to where it could idle longer than 5 seconds without loading up and still having a clean launch with a very light trail of smoke after hammering it until about the midrange it started to have a more noticeable smoke cloud. Am I going in the right direction or am I possibly going away from the tune? The idle seems to be getting closer to a 2 step at the current tune.

CBren32 09-03-2018 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by Cardiak (Post 15291672)
Alright so I'm trying to get my 28-8 completely tuned. I thought I had it dialed until today I took it it and got it up to temp and made several high speed passes. The idle was pretty much a 3 step instead of a 2 step. If I had let it come in and sit for 4 seconds or longer after a WOT pass, it would be loaded up and kind of sluggish once I hammered the throttle for the first couple of feet. From my knowledge, I should be able to bring it in and let it idle for 10 or more seconds and still get a clean pull unless it's an excessive amount of time idling. So I leaned my LSN and backed off on the idle screw. My idle gap is somewhere between .5 and .7. I eventually got it to where it could idle longer than 5 seconds without loading up and still having a clean launch with a very light trail of smoke after hammering it until about the midrange it started to have a more noticeable smoke cloud. Am I going in the right direction or am I possibly going away from the tune? The idle seems to be getting closer to a 2 step at the current tune.

Reset LSN, lean out HSN. I have a feeling you were very lean on the low end and super rich up top, which can cause false positives per say. But, could also be an air leak from the sounds of it. Guessing it's not your brand new 28-8 (if it's new), so give your fuel lines a check. Best of luck, probably just a tuning issue.

DXPinoyRC 09-04-2018 01:26 AM


Originally Posted by alex_blais (Post 15271870)
How is it better, the Paloma is doing over 11 minutes and has lots of power according to this thread and post #74
https://www.rctech.net/forum/offroad...edition-5.html
And seems to be running for 7+ gallons.
Is the rolling able to do 12-13 minutes?
My track is technical with no long straights and running a buggy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=uHQvS-93HWE

Thanks

hey brother. That's amazing runtime and that track isnt small. 11 mins is great for any motor, and its 7 port motor. I am curious about that motor. What plug do u run in it and do you use 25% to man VP fuel? How many gallons do u have on it so far? I am looking for a motor that will last 6 or 7 gallons at least.

Pedro Jesus 09-13-2018 04:55 AM

Hello to all, I have a doubt which is the exhaust and Novarossi manifold the best for Fuel-Economy? or specific to Fuel Economy?

Thank you

DXPinoyRC 09-30-2018 04:23 AM


Originally Posted by Pedro Jesus (Post 15298544)
Hello to all, I have a doubt which is the exhaust and Novarossi manifold the best for Fuel-Economy? or specific to Fuel Economy?

Thank you

2096 will do you well sir.

DXPinoyRC 09-30-2018 04:36 AM


Originally Posted by HaulinBass (Post 15237401)
Ran an 11:22 with the karma(silver head)69 type carb,2096 w 2050 double bend header, blue restictor, stock shimming and a c5tgc plug. After a 20 min heat soak run. Not to shabby for the 90 i paid for it haha

damn. Where the heck do you buy a karma for $90 ?! LOL. btw.. what is the double bend 2050 manifold?

Pedro Jesus 09-30-2018 10:40 AM

Novarossi launches a NEW engine
NOVAROSSI BX3

Pedro Jesus 09-30-2018 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by DXPinoyRC (Post 15308486)
2096 will do you well sir.


And the Manifold

Thank You

Pedro Jesus 09-30-2018 12:25 PM

Novarossi EFRA 2135 tuned pipe -NeoBuggy.net ? Offroad RC Car News

Pedro Jesus 10-01-2018 02:21 PM

NOVAROSSI BX3

BX3 - NOVAROSSI WORLD
http://www.novarossi.it/2012/images/...i/nova/BX3.pdf

Chris Reilly 10-01-2018 08:19 PM


Originally Posted by DXPinoyRC (Post 15308490)
damn. Where the heck do you buy a karma for $90 ?! LOL. btw.. what is the double bend 2050 manifold?

It is the header that came with the OS 2050 pipe and header set. I have a brand new 2050 header and pipe.



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