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megasaxon 11-14-2011 05:10 AM


Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 9907491)
myself I am not really into ceramic bearings.... IMO they typically fail sooner then steel and offer absolutely zero performance benefits....it kills me to see people saying ceramics help performance as they do absolutely nothing measurable or noticeable...IMO a whole bunch of hoopla over nothing tangible ! I have dyno and track tested ceramics many times over and my results were nothing noticeable...dyno didn't show any gains, and neither did any back to back track testing........that is my story and I am sticking to it,..bur hey, what do I know about engine performance ! ;)

i've found similar results, tho i havent seen a ceramic fail before a steel would. But moany engines come with cheaper/lower quality bearings and for the money and the quality, TKO ceramics are the ticket IMO

houston 11-14-2011 05:13 AM


Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 9907491)
myself I am not really into ceramic bearings.... IMO they typically fail sooner then steel and offer absolutely zero performance benefits....it kills me to see people saying ceramics help performance as they do absolutely nothing measurable or noticeable...IMO a whole bunch of hoopla over nothing tangible ! I have dyno and track tested ceramics many times over and my results were nothing noticeable...dyno didn't show any gains, and neither did any back to back track testing........that is my story and I am sticking to it,..bur hey, what do I know about engine performance ! ;)

Crappy ceramics fail sooner , novarossis ceramics last much longer, guaranteed :nod:

Maximo 11-14-2011 05:26 AM


Originally Posted by megasaxon (Post 9907639)
i've found similar results, tho i havent seen a ceramic fail before a steel would. But moany engines come with cheaper/lower quality bearings and for the money and the quality, TKO ceramics are the ticket IMO

I have seen more failure in aftermarket ceramics then I have in factory steel bearings, I wont say which brands....and this is spanning back about 6 years and several thousand engines...I guess i am just not a believer in ceramic engine bearings, tho I will happily install them upon request.....I just don't really see the point of it....If a engine has junk bearings from factory then I will usually just not bother working with that engine....

houston 11-14-2011 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 9907676)
I have seen more failure in aftermarket ceramics then I have in factory steel bearings, I wont say which brands....and this is spanning back about 6 years and several thousand engines...I guess i am just not a believer in ceramic engine bearings, tho I will happily install them upon request.....I just don't really see the point of it....If a engine has junk bearings from factory then I will usually just not bother working with that engine....

This is the novarossi engine thread , not aftermarket bearing thread ;)

There are no better bearings on the market ! Period :nod:

Chris Peralta 11-14-2011 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by houston (Post 9907645)
Crappy ceramics fail sooner , novarossis ceramics last much longer, guaranteed :nod:


All I run are the Nova ceramics as well!!! There is a reason they are expensive.

Maximo 11-14-2011 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by houston (Post 9907645)
Crappy ceramics fail sooner , novarossis ceramics last much longer, guaranteed :nod:

I believe you, they are really nice bearings.....

Myself I have never really had issues with bearings..... On the Taiwanese I have had to change some fronts early, but for the most part I don't really have any issues with any bearings...Which is really crazy when you consider how badly I treat some of my engines.....I doubt there are many people who who run as many different brands of engines as hard as I run them..And I never have bearing failures....From time to time I will change bearings if i feel some wear......Yet I see plenty of other people's engines barely out of breakin with shot bearings.......Myself I think keeping the engine clean, proper tune and a fuel with proper lubrication is the key to bearings.........If one of those 3 things is not in line your going to have bearing issues whether they are ceramic or steel........

edit... I have definitely bearings fail, just it is never with my own personal engines, and I do not treat my engine gently by any means......

Maximo 11-14-2011 06:36 AM


Originally Posted by houston (Post 9907782)
This is the novarossi engine thread , not aftermarket bearing thread ;)

There are no better bearings on the market ! Period :nod:

I was just backing up what you yourself just said about aftermarket bearings just 2 posts previous ! so no need to get snippy bro , I know its the Novarossi thread ! I just wanted to say that I share your exact thoughts on "crappy"ceramics ! I have seen the balls break apart more then once

"Crappy ceramics fail sooner , novarossis ceramics last much longer, guaranteed "

"There are no better bearings on the market ! Period :nod:"

I have no reason to doubt you at all , they are just quite expensive...definitely a slick idea you have putting ceramic balls into the Nova steel races, do you also use Nova ceramic balls as well ?

houston 11-14-2011 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 9907840)
I was just backing up what you yourself just said about aftermarket bearings just 2 posts previous ! so no need to get snippy bro , I know its the Novarossi thread ! I just wanted to say that I share your exact thoughts on "crappy"ceramics ! I have seen the balls break apart more then once

"Crappy ceramics fail sooner , novarossis ceramics last much longer, guaranteed "

"There are no better bearings on the market ! Period :nod:"

I have no reason to doubt you at all , they are just quite expensive

Just reiterating and aleviating any beliefs you could possibly have created in anybodys mind about ceramics in general , novarossi ceramics are in a whole nother league ;)

Not getting snippy at all Neal , just shedding light ;)

houston 11-14-2011 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by Lille-bror (Post 9907133)
Hi.

Where would it be possible to buy those small venturies? Could be a lot of fun trying them and see how the engine perform and how good my tuning skills are :nod:

I've heard Adam Drake uses 4,5 mm venturi from time to time. If he can...

OS makes 5,5 mm and they should fit a Novarossi carburator, right?

I could get them for ya , they arent xactly cheap though

Maximo 11-14-2011 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by houston (Post 9908222)
Just reiterating and aleviating any beliefs you could possibly have created in anybodys mind about ceramics in general , novarossi ceramics are in a whole nother league ;)

Not getting snippy at all Neal , just shedding light ;)

Please be more clear.....I did not realize I said anything that was inaccurate .... If you disagree with something then please let me know exactly what part of it you disagree with.....

merdith6 11-14-2011 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Maximo (Post 9907491)
myself I am not really into ceramic bearings.... IMO they typically fail sooner then steel and offer absolutely zero performance benefits....it kills me to see people saying ceramics help performance as they do absolutely nothing measurable or noticeable...IMO a whole bunch of hoopla over nothing tangible ! I have dyno and track tested ceramics many times over and my results were nothing noticeable...dyno didn't show any gains, and neither did any back to back track testing........that is my story and I am sticking to it,..bur hey, what do I know about engine performance ! ;)

You know I'm no idiot. I've been racing rc cars for over 20years, and I've had nitro buggies since 1990. and I'm just saying when i clean and rebuild my x7 with ceramic balls in the bearings that monty did when I spin the crank with my hand before i reinstall the piston and sleeve those bearings are smoother than any other I've touched...


I never said anything about performance gain....but it does feel like a ceramic rear helps the motor spool up faster, but doubt it makes more measurable power.. I have a lot of attention to detail and I can feel very slight changes in my car so take it for what it's worth....maybe I can measure what your dyno can't with my highly tuned sensory input device....

nitrofuel 11-14-2011 10:10 AM

Hi,

Question:

Nova Pre Run what is this? is Tuned?

I Look:

Nova BTT,Nova BTTS,Nova BTTS Pre run...Bonito same.

Attend news thanks

houston 11-14-2011 10:23 AM

Trust me Neil ,i'm not against you

We are both working to bring quality products and service to the general public , pretty good goal imo ;)

houston 11-14-2011 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by nitrofuel (Post 9908695)
Hi,

Question:

Nova Pre Run what is this? is Tuned?

I Look:

Nova BTT,Nova BTTS,Nova BTTS Pre run...Bonito same.

Attend news thanks

Its 30 min of running at 36k rpm is what the sheet says they send with the enginee

Laps in the p/s set very well actually , pretty much ready to run when installed


Hope this helps

nitrofuel 11-14-2011 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by houston (Post 9908764)
Its 30 min of running at 36k rpm is what the sheet says they send with the enginee

Laps in the p/s set very well actually , pretty much ready to run when installed


Hope this helps

Thanks but...

Only this?: Subdolo:


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