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DPowers 02-21-2010 04:22 PM

I finally got to run my B5 with the 2057 pipe and i must say i was very impressed the motor has so much power and not one simply problem and i am happy to say around 10-11 minutes a tank people were talking about how fast it was:nod:.

Chris Bellman 02-21-2010 05:52 PM

Anyone heard of a problem with the new carb? A good friend of mine just bought one and when running it for the first time the carb barrel froze open. I mean I could not push it back in by hand, I have never seen this happen before. The linkage was straight and the engine as I said was new with only 6 or 7 tanks on it. Any ideas, I was thinking about getting one and hope this was just a fluke. If we find out the problem I will post it here, thanks for any input!

DPowers 02-21-2010 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by Chris Bellman (Post 7036878)
Anyone heard of a problem with the new carb? A good friend of mine just bought one and when running it for the first time the carb barrel froze open. I mean I could not push it back in by hand, I have never seen this happen before. The linkage was straight and the engine as I said was new with only 6 or 7 tanks on it. Any ideas, I was thinking about getting one and hope this was just a fluke. If we find out the problem I will post it here, thanks for any input!

I have the new 2010 B5 and my carb work really so maybe its just a fluke i have heard of anyone having any problems like that im sure ron will be on here and will help u out with that.

hdcruzer 02-21-2010 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by Chris Bellman (Post 7036878)
Anyone heard of a problem with the new carb? A good friend of mine just bought one and when running it for the first time the carb barrel froze open. I mean I could not push it back in by hand, I have never seen this happen before. The linkage was straight and the engine as I said was new with only 6 or 7 tanks on it. Any ideas, I was thinking about getting one and hope this was just a fluke. If we find out the problem I will post it here, thanks for any input!

Im assuming your running this in a Losi. What servos are you running? I have not had a problem with the new carb but have had problems with the comp. carbs. On the new carb did you run it with the outer o-ring on the base? If you didnt put it on and it should be fine. The losis are very hard to get lined up. Maybe Ron will jump in and have better answers for ya.

Slimsh8t 02-21-2010 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by Chris Bellman (Post 7036878)
Anyone heard of a problem with the new carb? A good friend of mine just bought one and when running it for the first time the carb barrel froze open. I mean I could not push it back in by hand, I have never seen this happen before. The linkage was straight and the engine as I said was new with only 6 or 7 tanks on it. Any ideas, I was thinking about getting one and hope this was just a fluke. If we find out the problem I will post it here, thanks for any input!

I've got a new 2010 as well with 6-7 tanks and no problems here. I love this motor it rocks and so does all the help form Ron and everyone on this forum!:cool::cool::cool::cool:

jjshbetz11 02-21-2010 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by Chris Bellman (Post 7036878)
Anyone heard of a problem with the new carb? A good friend of mine just bought one and when running it for the first time the carb barrel froze open. I mean I could not push it back in by hand, I have never seen this happen before. The linkage was straight and the engine as I said was new with only 6 or 7 tanks on it. Any ideas, I was thinking about getting one and hope this was just a fluke. If we find out the problem I will post it here, thanks for any input!

Never heard that happening on any make of mill.... This only brings to mind the reason I strip a mill of any make down before I start it up. A milling job does create slivers of metal everywhere. I make it a religous chore to strip down new mills and check/lubricate/clean the internals and the crank case and flush the bearings. Hopefully you will find the culpert for this. You should PM ron, I'm sure he will get back when he can.

Werks 02-21-2010 07:15 PM

I did get a PM from the person and have touched base with him. If it's the guy that I think it is he's also running a Losi. As Hdcruz can atest getting the linkage set up correctly is critical on that brand of car. They just have an unusual servo placement that makes it a little tricky to get everything set up properly. This is not an engine related issue but rather a vehicle specific issue. In any case I sent him a PM back explaining what I thought was the issue just waiting on a responce but I would not worry about anything. To date we have sold hundreds of B5's and only had issues in two circustances both in Losi's, one of which was aleviated by playing with the linkage set up.

Regards,

Ron

alexrckid 02-21-2010 08:25 PM

i raced my B5 equiped T-2.0 at motorama(penna) this w/e......i have to say that this engine's absolutely ballistic. no one pulled me on the straight and the bottom end is scary....thank you ron......

Werks 02-21-2010 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by alexrckid (Post 7037662)
i raced my B5 equiped T-2.0 at motorama(penna) this w/e......i have to say that this engine's absolutely ballistic. no one pulled me on the straight and the bottom end is scary....thank you ron......

No thank you! I think companies have a tendency to forget that it's people just like you who are buying our products and keeping us in business! So again thank you and I'm happy to hear that you are liking our mills!

rcfoxhound 02-21-2010 10:29 PM

i have a hyper 9 and 8t nine is worse carb linkage angle out there,but line it up and i have no problems with b5 carb.

marshon50 02-22-2010 05:33 AM

Had my first outing w/ the B5 and Werks fuel at Motorama as well....the mill was awesome everywhere. I ran it in my RC8T w/ the TTR 2035 pipe and in my RC8 w/ the new 2057 pipe.

I'm loving the power, easily clearing the triple, actually overshooting it if I grabbed full throttle. I can't wait to try the Werks 2013 pipe for the truggy. My truggy was ballistic w/ the 2035, if the 2013 is as good as everyone says I'm gonna really love my B5. IMO the more power on tap the better, if you don't need it don't pull the trigger so hard!

The 2057 in the buggy was smooth and very fast on top. I'm actually looking forward to doing back to back testing once the season starts. I actually may want more grunt down low so maybe the 2013 for buggy too. I wonder what would happen if I put in 1.1 springs with the 2057 pipe??? Would I get the grunt AND still get the added run time?

Thanks to Ron and Werks for making a great race mill affordable.

RC-ZOMBIE 02-22-2010 06:09 AM

Pm, Ron

heidmann1 02-22-2010 07:56 AM

Marhson50, The 2057 has less bottom than the 2013, it still has more than enough for a buggy but if you want more punch on the bottom try running one 1.1mm spring, and see if that does it for you, if its better but you still want more you can run 2 1.1's and 1 1.0 springs. Also what shoes are you running? alum or carbon? On high bit tracks on my buggy I run the 2013 with all carbons and 1.0 springs, on a loose track I run 2057 pipe with 2 carbons with 1.0 springs and 1 aluminum with 1.1 spring.. hope this helps!:)

marshon50 02-22-2010 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by heidmann1 (Post 7039482)
Marhson50, The 2057 has less bottom than the 2013, it still has more than enough for a buggy but if you want more punch on the bottom try running one 1.1mm spring, and see if that does it for you, if its better but you still want more you can run 2 1.1's and 1 1.0 springs. Also what shoes are you running? alum or carbon? On high bit tracks on my buggy I run the 2013 with all carbons and 1.0 springs, on a loose track I run 2057 pipe with 2 carbons with 1.0 springs and 1 aluminum with 1.1 spring.. hope this helps!:)

Thanks, I understand what the characteristics are of each pipe, it's just that I've never run the 2013 to be able to compare it to the 2057. I'm not at all saying the 2057 was bad on the low end, I actually overshot the triple after a tight (almost hairpin) turn if I grabbed a ton of throttle. It's more of a need for testing to see what I can get away with w/o making the buggy unpredictable. I think I have a decent trigger finger, I'm not a light switch type of driver so I'm wondering if I had more low end grunt could I effectively use it. For this race I was running stock AE aluminum shoes w/ 1.0 springs. I may give my Werks clutch a shot and see if I can find the right spring tension to give me the snap I want w/ the 2057. Once I get the 2013 (definitely getting it for the truggy) I can try it out on the buggy and be able to compare it w/ the 2057 with identical clutch setups.

My buddy and I were talking on the trip back from Motorama how it'd be nice to have a full day at the track where you did nothing but testing setups. Unfortunately for us, real groomed tracks aren't readily accessible for practice except on race days before the race and that doesn't really leave enough time to get testing done. Boy do I wish there was a public track nearby, I'd be an expert on setups!!!:nod:

Werks 02-22-2010 03:21 PM

I just want to give a shot out to Kortz who had a full plate this weekend at the Nitro Cross! He took the win in CORR truck, 3rd in 1/8th Electric Buggy and never really getting his gas buggy to handle to his liking ended up in the Pro B-main. He bumped to the A-main and made it all the way up to 5th before becoming a victim of the dreaded 12-steps to hell front straight that caused him to crash. Kortz ended up finishing 11th in the A-main running a stock Werks B5 with 2057 and Werks 30% Race Blend fuel.


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