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Old 06-28-2010 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by blktransam
yes WERKS for the win now....no issues here. trust me I wish I could have made these engines work but after all the money and buying diff. pipes and still nothing...enuff is enuff for me. for those that have a good one props to ya glad you like it I am just voicing my issues and now that these engines have been out for a while ALOT more people are voicing their opinions on them.
yea im sure the werks engines are good for you now till your flywheel needs to be replaced and you continue to run it for another 4 gallons, then the engines will be to blame.
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Old 06-28-2010 | 03:53 PM
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Joe- you are a nice guy. Ed is VERY knoledgeable...but the fact can not be ignored and blame user error on EVERY engine that is not perfect. I did as everyone told me to do p4 plug even p5 plug, 086 pipe set idle gap, half in flush high and low...yadda yadda yadda...but never had any luck even every other engine i have owned once set to factory it would run good maybe no power house but would run good....
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Old 06-28-2010 | 03:56 PM
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really Joe?!?!?! going to blame the flywheel still? cuz I put that exact flywheel on my speed and had ZERO issues!! 4 gallons?!? HAHAHA ur funny I ran 4 gallons in mth and half???...lets be real here
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Old 06-28-2010 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by blktransam
Joe- you are a nice guy. Ed is VERY knoledgeable...but the fact can not be ignored and blame user error on EVERY engine that is not perfect. I did as everyone told me to do p4 plug even p5 plug, 086 pipe set idle gap, half in flush high and low...yadda yadda yadda...but never had any luck even every other engine i have owned once set to factory it would run good maybe no power house but would run good....
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I cant beleive you are even arguing with me.. Do I really need to post pictures of your clutch again!?! I personally have NEVER seen a clucth be run in that bad of condition before.. and for everyone i know running the engine saying it has great bottom end, and you crying it doesn't, i knew b4 even seeing your clutch that it had to be user error. I personally ran your engine and it ran fine and won a club race with it, so yea sorry your issues were user error.
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Old 06-28-2010 | 04:07 PM
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How about I send you mine Joe? You get it run like any "normal" .21 nitro engine and I will retract my statements.

If these engines are so different why don't they advertise them as such? Why are they so different? Why should I or anyone else for that matter pay $260+ dollars for an engine that has to be handled with kid gloves? Not arguing as I know that you have way more knowledge than I do on the subject however you have NOT seen my engine run so for you to just assume that I don't know what I am doing and that it is user error seems a little arrogant to me.
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Old 06-28-2010 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by awdcameolsx
Get the motor running where you think it is running right. Then take the low side needle and lean it out 1/4 to 1/3 a turn. This motor likes a much leaner bottom end then and OS. I have owned a few v-specs and a speed before this motor and love this one alot more. Was yours a race prep or box stock? Did you over temp it? Are you running an odonnel plug, JP series pipe, or some crappy fuel? (these 3 things make the motor run crappy) If you are having a hard time with a p4 plug try a p5, stay away from jp series pipes, and keep the low side needle a little leaner then you are used to. Only thing else I can think of is you may have over temp'd or rev'd the motor and made the rod a little sloppy. You just can't come in here short fused with a fit like a 5 year old who didn't get his way and yell this motor is crap without trying to figure out what your doing wrong first.

I had some issues with mine not running right as well. I was used to tuning VSpecs and this motor does not like that. My bottom end was over a full turn too rich. It is now puring like a kitten and scary fast.
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Old 06-28-2010 | 04:11 PM
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How about I send you mine Joe? You get it run like any "normal" .21 nitro engine and I will retract my statements.

If these engines are so different why don't they advertise them as such? Why are they so different? Why should I or anyone else for that matter pay $260+ dollars for an engine that has to be handled with kid gloves? Not arguing as I know that you have way more knowledge than I do on the subject however you have NOT seen my engine run so for you to just assume that I don't know what I am doing and that it is user error seems a little arrogant to me.
I'm being ARROGANT! I asked you if you needed help and you pretty much told me to F off!?!
buddy if you need help im happy to help, but if your just going to tell me who i am and tell me our equipment is junk, then my hands are tied.
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Old 06-28-2010 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jpalessi
I'm being ARROGANT! I asked you if you needed help and you pretty much told me to F off!?!
buddy if you need help im happy to help, but if your just going to tell me who i am and tell me our equipment is junk, then my hands are tied.
I have posted numerous times in this thread and ask questions about this engine only to be ignored. I don't recall you ever offering to help me......other than telling me that my issues were user error....
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Old 06-28-2010 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by hlpressley
I have posted numerous times in this thread and ask questions about this engine only to be ignored. I don't recall you ever offering to help me......other than telling me that my issues were user error....
well, im sorry for that i'm not on here everyday as tho it may seem. I try to help everyone i can but sometimes posts do get overlooked. you could have PM'ed me or called EBMods. anyway I'm happy to help if you would like?
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Old 06-28-2010 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by hlpressley
Is it normal for these engines to be very cold natured on start up? I have a race prep in my truggy with the 086 pipe, P4 plug, EB Mods 30% fuel and it takes at least three or four starting attempts for this engine to actually run. It will fire up and run for a few seconds and cut off. I literally have to start trying to start the engine halfway through the previous race just so it will run when my race is up.

Never had any of these issues with my Ninja JX.21 engines. Ideas?
The above post is from 6/13. Any ideas? I am willing to give the engine another try but you have to understand my frustrations here being that I have never experienced any issues such as this before.

I will give credit where credit is due in saying that once this engine is up to temp and running it is stupid fast if you keep it cleared out and don't allow it to load up on the bootom.
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Old 06-28-2010 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by hlpressley
The above post is from 6/13. Any ideas? I am willing to give the engine another try but you have to understand my frustrations here being that I have never experienced any issues such as this before.

I will give credit where credit is due in saying that once this engine is up to temp and running it is stupid fast if you keep it cleared out and don't allow it to load up on the bootom.
I just went to your profile and found this post cause i almost didn't beleive i missed a support question. Again sorry!

The engines are cold blooded and typically like to run between 200* and 230*
Also yes the engine do take longer then a OS engine to warm up. I start my engine with 3 mins to go in the race b4 mine. It's not like a os where you can fire it up, clear it out, and throw it on the track. YOU HAVE TO TUNE THIS ENGINE WHEN IT'S UP TO OPERATING TEMP. (200* +) that means no box tuning during warm up.. biggest thing is having the idle set correctly at 1-1/4 turns from closed, and tuning the hsn first, then once you get the top ripping good, then you start leaning the LSN 1 click on the laser etching at a time till it makes good power and runs consistent. if you continue to struggle and would like to send the engine in for inspection we offer customer service.
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Old 06-28-2010 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jpalessi
I just went to your profile and found this post cause i almost didn't beleive i missed a support question. Again sorry!

The engines are cold blooded and typically like to run between 200* and 230*
Also yes the engine do take longer then a OS engine to warm up. I start my engine with 3 mins to go in the race b4 mine. It's not like a os where you can fire it up, clear it out, and throw it on the track. YOU HAVE TO TUNE THIS ENGINE WHEN IT'S UP TO OPERATING TEMP. (200* +) that means no box tuning during warm up.. biggest thing is having the idle set correctly at 1-1/4 turns from closed, and tuning the hsn first, then once you get the top ripping good, then you start leaning the LSN 1 click on the laser etching at a time till it makes good power and runs consistent. if you continue to struggle and would like to send the engine in for inspection we offer customer service.
Thanks. Will give it a shot.
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Old 06-28-2010 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by blktransam
really Joe?!?!?! going to blame the flywheel still? cuz I put that exact flywheel on my speed and had ZERO issues!! 4 gallons?!? HAHAHA ur funny I ran 4 gallons in mth and half???...lets be real here
Ryan, yes, it was definitely your flywheel / clutch set-up. I don't believe you put that clutch set-up on any other engine, for the simple fact you told me the clutch was new over the phone before you sent me the engine. This is why I ask you to leave the clutch on it, because bottom-end power has never been an issue.
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Old 06-28-2010 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by hlpressley
How about I send you mine Joe? You get it run like any "normal" .21 nitro engine and I will retract my statements.

If these engines are so different why don't they advertise them as such? Why are they so different? Why should I or anyone else for that matter pay $260+ dollars for an engine that has to be handled with kid gloves? Not arguing as I know that you have way more knowledge than I do on the subject however you have NOT seen my engine run so for you to just assume that I don't know what I am doing and that it is user error seems a little arrogant to me.
As with any new engine line production issues can happen, and engines that were sent back to me that were found defected were replaced. This is why I don't understand all this? If you have an issue send the engine in, maybe I'll find a problem.
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Old 06-28-2010 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by rageworks
EB Mods JS engines at a clearence price.
I guess these guys are dumping all the JS
engines that they have left.
http://www.waldorfrc.com/servlet/the...-Engine/Detail
So I guess the papers have been served........

Long story short I had to sue Waldorf RC C/O Steve Wood, who ordered engines and never paid. Steve has never contacted me except to say he was going to pay, nor has any customers they say had any engine issues. This is there way of trying to reduce JS engine orders to help another company promote another engine line. Below is just a little bit of some IM's between me and either Steve Wood or Tony West, not sure who as they play games, but I was trying to make it very simple for them. Please note when he says they don't have any JS's in-stock, and please note the screen name.


EBMods: easiest solution is to send the 3 engines back, done deal
TQFuel: I dont have any JS motors
EBMods: you told Joe you had 3 new ones in-stock, and I have Waldorfs Web site showing them in-stock
TQFuel: Well I need to take that down
TQFuel: check the web site in 10 minutes
EBMods: doesn't matter,, I have screen shot of it,, if you sold them then PAY your bill
EBMods: Screen Shot with Date
TQFuel: check now


This was 3 weeks ago, so if he didn't have any engines then, but now it's a closeout item,, come on. True deadbeat dealer...........

To anyone who buys one of these closeout engines, if you can forward me proof of purchase I'll send you a FREE 6qt CASE of 30% Race Fuel. This will help build my case against Waldorf RC and help prevent this from happening to any other company they may try to take advantage of.
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