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pitpop 01-04-2011 12:35 AM


Originally Posted by RePeTe (Post 8430274)
I picked up one of the Alpha .21 5 port ABI engines today. Gunna wait till my Orion MTE quits on me before i really start running it though. Apparently it has ceramic bearings and all that jazz. Overall its typical looking orion quality and if it runs like my crf's do (not expecting the power, but the reliability, longevity, and easy tuning) it should be a winner at right around $200.

where did you get that engine? I didn't think it was out yet... it's a Discovery, right?

pitpop 01-04-2011 12:37 AM


Originally Posted by ScottyM (Post 8430813)
Thanks Paul, I look forward to hearing the results..

BTW I hope it is soon, cause I am about 3-4 weeks from ordering a motor, and am down to Orion or Werks..

nobody works as hard as Team Orion on their engine development ;)

t8rtot 01-04-2011 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by pitpop (Post 8432725)
where did you get that engine? I didn't think it was out yet... it's a Discovery, right?

Stormer Racing Hobbies I believe

pitpop 01-04-2011 10:11 AM

That's a great engine at a great price! OMG, even I am tempted to buy one! :lol: It has the new carburetor with the insert, and new crank case material. That is just an unbelievable engine for that price.

RePeTe 01-04-2011 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by pitpop (Post 8432725)
where did you get that engine? I didn't think it was out yet... it's a Discovery, right?

i ordered it from my local hobby town. Horizon said it was back ordered until feb 28. but it came in anyway. Yes it is the new Discovery.

Also have to give props to my dad (tri-city hobbies), he always finds me a great engine that fits my price range. He called me up when he found that horizon was having the MTE+pipe package for $220, he knows i like the orions and put it on order for me right when he saw it.

RePeTe 01-04-2011 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by t8rtot (Post 8433567)
Stormer Racing Hobbies I believe

LHS (hobbytown)

v6shooter 01-04-2011 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by pitpop (Post 8434358)
That's a great engine at a great price! OMG, even I am tempted to buy one! :lol: It has the new carburetor with the insert, and new crank case material. That is just an unbelievable engine for that price.

I got mine 2months ago, looks nice for the price. Ready to break it in :nod: when it stops raining:cry:

pitpop 01-04-2011 11:04 PM

That is by far the best buy right now in nitro engines... there is no possible way you can find an Italian engine of that quality with a ceramic bearing for 200 bucks. period... :cool:

Signal151 01-05-2011 12:33 AM


Originally Posted by pitpop (Post 8413417)
That's not the same stuff. The Super grease is in a tube and it's black. Pretty much like half way dried JB weld... :lol:

I use this on my engine o-rings and diff outdrives.

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...eat-Grease-8cc

I have no idea how it compares to the old Mugen grease you liked but it seems to work very well for me.

Losi also has a thicker version that they call hi-pressure grease.

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ack-Grease-8cc

Question: I have a pair of brand new MTEs and I noticed that they have four shims between the sleeve and the head button. Two aluminium (thin) and two copper (thick). Is this setup for 30% nitro? If I run 20% nitro can I remove one of the thin aluminium shims to gain power/efficiency?

Thanks and congrats on your and Cody's accomplishment!

Brad8283 01-05-2011 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by RePeTe (Post 8436147)
i ordered it from my local hobby town. Horizon said it was back ordered until feb 28. but it came in anyway. Yes it is the new Discovery.

Also have to give props to my dad (tri-city hobbies), he always finds me a great engine that fits my price range. He called me up when he found that horizon was having the MTE+pipe package for $220, he knows i like the orions and put it on order for me right when he saw it.

What type of tuned pipes are ya'll running with that engine? Any recommendations?

ScottyM 01-05-2011 12:49 PM

Paul I assume you are refering to this engine as the $200 discovery?

Is is just me or is the head smaller in diameter then other engines??

RePeTe 01-05-2011 04:26 PM

i havent run it yet, but i will be running a 2013 on it.

i just took my Discovery 5-port and compared the head size to my MTE, Same size.

pitpop 01-05-2011 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by Signal151 (Post 8438160)
I use this on my engine o-rings and diff outdrives.

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...eat-Grease-8cc

I have no idea how it compares to the old Mugen grease you liked but it seems to work very well for me.

Losi also has a thicker version that they call hi-pressure grease.

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ack-Grease-8cc

Question: I have a pair of brand new MTEs and I noticed that they have four shims between the sleeve and the head button. Two aluminium (thin) and two copper (thick). Is this setup for 30% nitro? If I run 20% nitro can I remove one of the thin aluminium shims to gain power/efficiency?

Thanks and congrats on your and Cody's accomplishment!

Thanks very much. Yes, if you are running 30% nitro with your current head clearance, and it's running fine (no detonation) you should be able to remove one small shim and run 20% nitro with no trouble.

pitpop 01-05-2011 04:40 PM


Originally Posted by ScottyM (Post 8440393)
Paul I assume you are refering to this engine as the $200 discovery?

Is is just me or is the head smaller in diameter then other engines??

That's pretty much it, but it's funny that it says ceramic bearings and "bi-steel" bearing (whatever that means) in the feature list. It also has a turbo button which is a plus. Still a totally screaming deal even with a steel bearing. Ceramic bearings are over rated, the steel ones will run just as good.

Let me just clarify, I am only reading the Stormer Hobbies promotion. I have no idea whether it has a ceramic bearing or not. I don't know what type of bearing or what combination of features is released until I open the cellophane like you guys. As far as I can see it's a typo and it actually has a steel bearing, that is my educated guess. Why would you put a 90 dollar bearing in an engine and sell it for 200 bucks? :)

johnnyboy 01-05-2011 04:44 PM

For the new 5 port CRF Alpha, have any break in and basic tuning tips/temp range? I am still pretty new to Nitro racing. Thanks!

Also plug wise I see you guys run the #6. For colder indoor racing in the North East should I run the #5 plug?


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