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Vigilante212 04-22-2008 01:41 PM

Nm I went to the LHS an hour away got 3 p3 and a gallon of fuel :).

Cannonball 04-23-2008 02:39 PM

Hey SqueegUK, if you coming to Jhb, unfortunately there's no Byron fuel agency in Jhb that I know of, most guys here in Jhb use Sidewinder, made under licence or make their own fuel. IMO this is about the best fuel available here. After trying out different brands, this is the most consistent and reliable.

David Alberico 04-23-2008 02:39 PM

This past weekend Cameron Martin put a Go .25 in the Amain.

I myself was in the the A main with the .21 5 port. There were only 46 entries in the expert class :(, compared to 64 in the sportsman.

SqueegUK 04-23-2008 02:51 PM

Thanks for the reply. Yes, it will be Jhb, my daughter lives in Randburg.

Tabushi 04-23-2008 03:26 PM

Race Report

Driver : Patricio "Pato" Concha
Event : 2008 Southamerican Championship - Caracas/Venezuela - "La Lagunita" Track
Event Schedule : 1 free practice day, 1 controlled practice day and 2 race days (1 x qualifying + 1 x mains)
Format : 100% IFMAR Tree format
Result : 21th General position, from 50 drivers from 5 countries, went out finishing 4th place on the 1/4th finals (just 3 make the bump up)

Car : CEN Matrix FRE
Engine : GO Tech - 7 Ports .21
Pipe : GO Tech FEMCA 0801
Tyres : VP PRO - 802 Soft
Air Filter and Clutch Bearings : Power Save Racing (Germany)
Clutch : M2C Racing 4 Shoe model - 1.0 x 4 springs + Regular Medium Shoes
Body : Parma Xciter
Fuel : Maxy's Fuel 25%


Car Setup :

Diffs : 5k - 5k - 1k (ofna)
Transmission : 43/10 - 44 - 43/10
Clutch Bell : 16T
Shock Oil : 45wt / 35wt (associated)
Shock Springs : Mugen Grey front and rear
Front Upper Arms : Dismissed, replaced by direct links to the shock tower
Ackerman : Mid Hole
Shock Towers : Stock CF front and rear
Front Toe : Out 1º
Rear Toe : 3T/1S aluminum piece
Camber : 2º Front - 3,5º Rear
Wheelbase : 6mm inserts on the front of the rear hubs
Rear Links : Out on the hubs, lower inner hole on the shock tower
Front Shock Angle : Out on the arms, inner and up on the shock tower
Rear Shock Angle : Out on the arms, inner and up on the shock tower


Comments :

CAR (CEN Matrix FRE) : Just very happy with it, it was a 3 1/2 days process to "know" the car (first time ever touching dirt was on that race), felt guilty for not having the time to know the car before the race. The initial setup was 180º different from the final setup, wich i liked very very well (posted up on this text). My offroad experience prior to get the CEN car was almost 3 years of MT (Tamiya TNX and Losi ones) and Jammin FTE Buggy, and i must say that im very surprised by the performance of the CEN buggy, the setups are very different of what i used on the jammin, but its a very stable and fast with a high rotation capability and great jumping, waaay more agressive than my jammin and very good on the feeling of every change you do on the setup. Thanks CEN USA for giving me the chance of raceing for you, hope to give better results during this 2008 season.

Engine (GO Engines .21 7 ports) : Just amazing. One of the fastest on the straight even with the 7mm restrictor, great kick for technical sections and 8 minutes and 45 seconds of run time. Not a single flameout during the whole event, not a single sign of hesitation or anything, just due to a pitman mistake, my 1/4th finals started a little rich and he tried to solve that during pit entries. The pipe combination was very very good and it seemed that the clutch setup was perfect for what i needed from this engine. A lot of people were interested on see my engine and in fact a very well know southamerican modder ended asking me permission and opening my engine for see what was inside :), he was very pleased with what he saw and gave me a "congrats" about it.

Tyres (VP PRO 802 - Soft) : Very very good choice. I tried the adviced tyres for the track (Panther Gator Soft and Proline CF M3) but when i fitted the VP PRO 802-Soft the car was on rails and with a very good wear rate. I hope you guys in USA and other countries have the chance to test them out, keep an eye on the new 804 tyre in soft and medium compounds !!.

Clutch (M2C 4 Shoe) : I selected the regular mediums for this race, with 1.0 springs x 4. Excellent choice, great response and very very low wear rate, in fact i dissasembled the whole clutch setup just for checking it and its almost new after more than 5 hours of use.

Air Filter and Clutch Bearings (Power Save Racing) : Great products as usual, the track had a little dusty condition and a lot of drivers had clutch bearing problems, i used the Power Save Racing ones and i just changed them once just for precaution but they are almost new without problems. Filters as usual worked flawlesly, best air filters i ever used.

Here you have couple videos a friend took of my CEN on the track during 1/4th finals. Maaaaaaaan that stop and go i received on the start made me crazy now im watching it, any opinion about it ?, well applied ?, i lost the chance to go for semifinals by 2 seconds, and the stop and go was 10 seconds so do the math :( :

First Part : http://www.revver.com/video/838562/2...-fre-01-of-02/

Second Part : http://www.revver.com/video/839160/2...-fre-02-of-02/


Soon i will be publishing more videos of the race with shots from the finals and all ...


Thanks to all my sponsors, this is my first big event of 2008 season, hope to make it better for all you next time !!!

cya !!

Pato Concha

CEN Racing
Maxy's Fuel
Power Save Racing
VP Pro Tyres
GO Engines
Upgrade RC
M2C Racing
Pits Hobby Shop Colombia

[email protected]

Vigilante212 04-23-2008 06:34 PM

Well put the first 2 tanks through the .21 5 port turbo today.

Wow First off its super tight, but you guys aleady know that. After we got it running it idled perfect so I left it idle for 15 minutes it averaged 200-230 degrees.

I know people say these engines dont wake up until the gallon and a half mark, but if it wakes up then I cant imagine how powerful its going to be its tossing my buddies truggy around like nothing being rich and on short throttle bursts.

My goal is to get half a gallon on it before my race on may 3rd. maybe more if the weather cooperates. The engine is going into an 808 I need to pick up some restrictors for it where can I get some and how much are they. I need thme by the 3rd.

air8 04-23-2008 07:04 PM

Dang Tabushi, that's an awesome race report.

mugenb46 04-23-2008 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by David Alberico (Post 4381824)
This past weekend Cameron Martin put a Go .25 in the Amain.

I myself was in the the A main with the .21 5 port. There were only 46 entries in the expert class :(, compared to 64 in the sportsman.

How did his motor look on the track David? Cams .25

will g 04-24-2008 06:33 AM

hey all got ? about glow plugs

what type of plugs should you run in summer versus winter and such i normally just run med standard plugs and med turbo plugs

thnx will g

British Menace 04-24-2008 07:58 AM


Originally Posted by will g (Post 4383948)
hey all got ? about glow plugs

what type of plugs should you run in summer versus winter and such i normally just run med standard plugs and med turbo plugs

thnx will g

The general rule of thumb with plugs, weather they are turbo or standard is this......
The colder the weather is, the hotter the plug you should use and vice-versa too..........
The hotter the weather is your running the car/motor in, the colder the plug you should use.

If your running in anywhere near feezing temps........if your as mad as I used to be ...lol. Then go very hot! A 4 or even a 3 plug! (I've heard some have had good success with running the 3 even when it's slightley warmer too (40's !)
Then go to 5 and 6 plugs as you get up to 50 degrees or so and so on up the temp sclae.

When it gets stupid hot, over 90 degrees and above. You should be looking at 7 and 8 plugs! They are very cold plugs.

One thing to remember. Hot plugs 9for the conditions/ temps your driving in, help keep a good steady idle! The colder you go with the plugs, you may see idle problems!

This is by no means the end of the "which plug to use" story. But this temp indication will get you very close to the ideal plug you need for the conditions your going to be driving in.

Hope this all helps.

Regards,

British Menace

will g 04-24-2008 08:25 AM

i live in arizona and we love hot !!! j/k thanks for the help will g

MassiveMods 04-24-2008 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by will g (Post 4383948)
hey all got ? about glow plugs

what type of plugs should you run in summer versus winter and such i normally just run med standard plugs and med turbo plugs

thnx will g


Plugs to use .. well whatever works but general rule of thumb is

Hot Plug low to 15 % nitro
Med Plug 16 to 25 % nitro
Cold Plug 26 to 35 % nitro
Very Cold Plug 36 to 65 % nitro

the difference usually is the thickness of the filament , thicker filament means coole rplug , this is adapt for high nitro because of the greater force in the combustion chamber , the thicker wire can take it better than a med plug.. it also retards ignition timing which can help prevent pre ignition when using high nitro fuels.

Benefits of Med to Hot plugs is better idle , cleaner take off , but arent as robust .

Hope this helps

www.massivemods.com :deathstar

jgtruggy 04-24-2008 06:48 PM

Hey mugenb46,

I'm getting a losi 8ight on top of my 8T. What GO do I want to put in my buggy? And where is the best place to purchase it? I'll be wanting the engine within a couple of weeks. This hobby seems to take up all my extra $$$:lol: so I'll be saving for the mill. Thanks for the help once again. Oh, what's the price as well?

mugenb46 04-24-2008 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by jgtruggy (Post 4385806)
Hey mugenb46,

I'm getting a losi 8ight on top of my 8T. What GO do I want to put in my buggy? And where is the best place to purchase it? I'll be wanting the engine within a couple of weeks. This hobby seems to take up all my extra $$$:lol: so I'll be saving for the mill. Thanks for the help once again. Oh, what's the price as well?

8 buggy? 3 port race. this motor will be very nice in the losi, i thought first the modded 7 port, but from what I'm hearing the 7 port is quite a handfull, the 3 port will work very well. I have some 3 ports, stock 180 modded 260.

mugenb46 04-24-2008 07:34 PM

Thought some people would be intersted in this:nod:

Effective NOW

Price Changes

starting today PTM modding is now doing engines for $65. This will
include all brands of engines, not limited to GO engines.

Other Services

Modding-$65
Bench Breakin-$35
Crank Mod-$30
Conrod Mod-$20
TKO Main bearing replacement-$35
TKO Full Ceramic replacement-$50
Rebuild with parts supplied-$30

PTM GO Race 3 port Team Mods-$260
PTM GO Race 5 port Team Mods-$265
PTM GO Race 7 port Team Mods-$270
PTM GO Race .25 6 port Team Mods-$265


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