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Old 02-27-2014, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by edhchoe
The VTA tires don't have much traction so out of a turn acceleration is where it will lose time. With TC tires, it will be fast.
think x patterns would work? or think there would have to be an exception for tires? maybe try the new ride gt spec
tires? but just for the ff cars? would have to do some testing to see what would make them competitive. if we could get them as fast as dans aesomatix car that would be fine by me.


usgt spec tire.

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People will have to run the FWD at the races to see what exactly they are up against. Anything will be better than two narrow front VTA tires spinning for grip. When we go asphalt the track will be more open...

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For FF.... maybe VTA rears on the front, and fronts on the rear?

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Originally Posted by grippgoat
For FF.... maybe VTA rears on the front, and fronts on the rear?

-Mike
I thought about that also but the VTA rears have so much offset. It would be interesting if it actually works.
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The Comp Committee recently had occasion to talk about Scale Spec and it is felt that a little corner of the spec can be tidied up.
As regarding front wheel drive sedans--Tamiya FF03, VBC FF12, etc.--the minimum weight requirement is removed....
Exploring the possibility of running a 2nd class at the Hangar - but with a small budget only. Would you guys allow a RWD chassis in the scale spec class (considering that all specs are meet, Body/motor/tires/ESC... etc)?

I know a RWD would be at disadvantage VS the FF and sedans but it would be fun for me and a chance to do more RC racing instead of siting for long hours waiting for one heat to come up.

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You know what's rwd? A pan car!
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F103GT gets around the track pretty well, and I'm pretty sure is legal for Scale Spec. Todd ran one a few years ago.

There are budget 4wd, too, though, like the Spec-R S1. Or a bunch of older used chassis.

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Ah, here we go. FWD sedans are truly that: sedans. They look, feel, and handle like their 4WD brothers. There are differences, sure, but it's at the genus-species level of race car taxonomy. In other words, a FWD and 4WD could have sex and produce sexless offspring. Probably a minivan, or a Subaru Outback

Anyway...Scale Spec is not a LeMans class. It's too deep and competitive to spoil with a mix of cars that don't act like each other. (yes, there is the Mini exception, but that goes back to the ancient days).

Believe it or not, Scale Spec was once scrapping for entries, so the F103GT...it's a car I have and could put out there with virtually no maintenance or preparation. But, even then (2010?) there was some snark about it, so I stopped. And anyway, the class got its feet under it. It's not something I'd do now. RWD's are different beasts, particularly solid axle rear drive pan cars. So, I'm afraid it will have to be no on the F103's or other similar chassis.

Sorry to disappoint. I know there are a ton of cool cars out there that are looking for a home to race (a swarm of HPI Cup Racers with Datsun 510 bodies! Sweet!), but we can only accommodate so much.

On a related note: it's D compounds on all sedans, 4WD and FWD.
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I can't stop wondering how a FWD will do in SS.
Theoretically, the AWD traction advantage gets amplified as the motor strength increases and as the track surface gets less grippy.
The AWD advantage will be at minimum with 25.5 on carpet and maximum in modified class on asphalt.
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I have a question for the peeps running the vintage tires and wheels. How's the handling if you were to run 26's in the rear? Big difference? I would assume you'd lose some traction.

If it's doable without too much loss of control, it could make finding a body a little less of a chore.

I like the wheels, but they only have them in 26's.

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I've done it a few times...it gives the car a bit more rotation.
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I started out with four front tires also. After about three races I went with wide rears. The car was easier to drive with wider rears.

I would sand the rims where the tire will meet so the glue will keep the tire on the wheel. Often the tires come off the wheel when the chrome flakes off.
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Originally Posted by Carnage9270
I have a question for the peeps running the vintage tires and wheels. How's the handling if you were to run 26's in the rear? Big difference? I would assume you'd lose some traction.

If it's doable without too much loss of control, it could make finding a body a little less of a chore.

I like the wheels, but they only have them in 26's.
It's been done with success. I'll probably try it after the enduro.

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XPATTERNS!

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Originally Posted by R3VoLuTiOn
XPATTERNS!

Would Xpatterns give you better control in 26's?
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