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Old 11-17-2003, 12:16 AM   #46
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Malaysia is one of the countrythat not served by Tower Hobbies...That is too bad. I believe is due to somebody -jackass screwed up the realibility of online payment.

I think its more political than anything else ! Dun think they'd stop shipping to a whole country just coz of a couple of bad transactions ! Did tower ever ship to m'sia in the first place ?

And if got friends or relatives in singapore can ship there and pay by paypal also ! but yeah no paypal, no towerhobbies ! wtf !!
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Old 12-15-2003, 12:32 AM   #47
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Hi guys, another question for small radius cornering. Which tuning that we should consider?

What I know is...
1. Front Toe out - More toe out means more smaller radius
2. Rear Toe In - More toe in means more smaller radius.
3. EPA/ Dual Rate setting on radio - More means steering tuning, and more smaller the radius.
4. Run slow into the corner

What I doesn't know...
1. If we increase the static weight infront compare that the rear do we gain more steering for more small radius cornering?
2. If we used more grip tire compare than the rear. Do we gain more steering for more small radius cornering?

Thanks for your help..and opinion.
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1. If we increase the static weight infront compare that the rear do we gain more steering for more small radius cornering?
2. If we used more grip tire compare than the rear. Do we gain more steering for more small radius cornering?
The above is true to a certain extent. It will give you more steering but not necessarily more turning radius.

I believe you need agressive Ackerman steering, shorter wheelbase, smaller front trackwidth and loose rear diff for smaller turning radius.

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The above is true to a certain extent. It will give you more steering but not necessarily more turning radius.

I believe you need agressive Ackerman steering, shorter wheelbase, smaller front trackwidth and loose rear diff for smaller turning radius.

"agressive Ackerman steering, shorter wheelbase", emmm.... Is MTX3 or V1RR Evo wheelbase can be adjusted? InitialD, if you notice I'm inspired our local diver such Eric Ma, Mizan ( The 2 different style ) driving. I'm in progress studying/analyse their way of driving. Amuze with Eric Ma taking corner the other day I believe it got to do with engine tuning and the clutch engage setting as well.

By the way - Initial D are you Takumi Fujiwara And probably I analyse other people driving is - Ryosuke Takahashi
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"agressive Ackerman steering, shorter wheelbase", emmm.... Is MTX3 or V1RR Evo wheelbase can be adjusted? InitialD, if you notice I'm inspired our local diver such Eric Ma, Mizan ( The 2 different style ) driving. I'm in progress studying/analyse their way of driving. Amuze with Eric Ma taking corner the other day I believe it got to do with engine tuning and the clutch engage setting as well.

By the way - Initial D are you Takumi Fujiwara And probably I analyse other people driving is - Ryosuke Takahashi
Initial D = Takumi Fujiwara??
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Is MTX3 or V1RR Evo wheelbase can be adjusted?
Nope. I think the HPI R40 is the only one able to do that.

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I believe it got to do with engine tuning and the clutch engage setting as well.
That plays an important part too. I do not know but from your description, he may have used front diffs which makes braking possible and easier to do. With a one way, it is more difficult to brake but possible. You can make the car slow down before taking corners.

I think it's all a matter of throttle control. How much and when to throttle and accelerate and how much and when to brake just enough to slow down the car and accelerate out of the corners.

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I think it's all a matter of throttle control. How much and when to throttle and accelerate and how much and when to brake just enough to slow down the car and accelerate out of the corners.
Wooo.... that sound difficult Neeeeeeed to practisessssss
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It will give you more steering but not necessarily more turning radius.
more turning radius ? i am confused........
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more turning radius ? i am confused........
not only you got confused !
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Regarding the track width. If i measure the front trackwidth which is with foam front tires 26mm tires, I got 198 mm and the rear track width with form tires 30mm, I got 205mm reading. So is anybody do a testing which trackwidth measurement combo is good for smooth and small cornering ?

So How much gap/ variance that I should set between the front and the rear track width ? Any guideline?
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So How much gap/ variance that I should set between the front and the rear track width ? Any guideline?
I guess with a 205 mm rear trackwidth, it is a little too wide. Limit it down to less than 200 mm. A wider rear trackwidth gives you a lot of rear traction hence this takes steering away as the car will have too much rear grip.

You can stay with the same front and rear trackwidth. I use 199 mm in front and 198 mm in the rear. Plenty good turn in and steering.
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I guess with a 205 mm rear trackwidth, it is a little too wide. Limit it down to less than 200 mm. A wider rear trackwidth gives you a lot of rear traction hence this takes steering away as the car will have too much rear grip.

You can stay with the same front and rear trackwidth. I use 199 mm in front and 198 mm in the rear. Plenty good turn in and steering.

Woooww.. 198mm at the rear. is it measure with the rear foam tyres the 30mm width?
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Woooww.. 198mm at the rear. is it measure with the rear foam tyres the 30mm width?
Yes. With -4 or -3 camber and +2 toe-in.
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Thank you... And i believe some of our forum friends is much pleasure to know that setup from you as well. They racing with your setup.
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And i believe some of our forum friends is much pleasure to know that setup from you as well.
Who are they?
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