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Steering stop...
I'm starting to think that the steering stop adjustment (page 12) is one of the most underrated tuning options on this kit. I see many manufacturers following suit.
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Originally Posted by TNTylo
(Post 14772567)
Kriege meinen in den nächsten tagen.
Cheers Thilo
Originally Posted by Dr_T
(Post 14772544)
I'll check my motor insert thickness later today. @Matthew_Armeni: do you already know what is going on with some of the motor inserts? Was it just a bad out-of-tolerance batch? Are you replacing inserts that are affected?
Anyway, I added a single layer of 0.05 mm Aluminium tape (the stuff used for heat-shielding chimneys and ovens and such) to the insert (see pics below) and now the motor clears the mount when sliding in. I have used that tape before to reduce sloppy tolerances with the Losi 8ight mount. http://www.rctech.net/forum/members/...erender-81.jpg http://www.rctech.net/forum/members/...2-img-1503.jpg http://www.rctech.net/forum/members/...erender-82.jpg http://www.rctech.net/forum/members/...4-img-1505.jpg |
Originally Posted by zemog255
(Post 14769256)
I put the smc 1900kv in the mt today. It is much better now way more controllable and smoother. I can tell it lost some top end but nothing too crazy much easier to roll into the throttle now but will still wheelie without much effort. I still want to give the smc2100kv a shot. I think that will be perfect.
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Originally Posted by Dr_T
(Post 14772544)
Alright, it took a bit to get this over the pond, but I'm finally ready to join you guys!
I'll check my motor insert thickness later today. @Matthew_Armeni: do you already know what is going on with some of the motor inserts? Was it just a bad out-of-tolerance batch? Are you replacing inserts that are affected? |
Me: Speaking of my kit, are you supposed to cut down the servo saver spring? Matt: Nope, just run the spring as is. Me: Also, At max ride height, the screw for the steering links on the knuckles hit the a-arms. I don't think I plan on setting the ride height to max, but this still means you can't turn when it's jumping. Matt: Look at the instructions again, I think you installed the screw upside down. It is counter intuitive because of the hex hole on the spindle. We run all of cars this way now. Me: Furthermore, I think I need to cut down the front screws that go into the front chassis brace into the plastic bulkheads. I checked the manual, and they're supposed to be the same length as the rear, but the rear has a plastic bumper acting as a spacer. The fronts dont have that bumper acting as a spacer. Matt: If you're referring to the M3x40mm screws then you don't need to cut them down. We spec'd those screws before we ever came out with the SC truck so they're the correct length. We actually tested extensively to make sure they were long enough when running the bumper and found they hold up just fine. |
Ok guys I have now put this truck through the Savage Sam ringer and the truck has passed with flying colours, I built the truck with the set up right out of the box and changed nothing what so ever, the kit went together perfect for me with each step fitting correctly.
I ran with the 100k/100k/50k diff oils, 700wt/700wt shock oils, Tekin RX8 speed controller set to max on every setting, current, punch, timing I maxed them all, 17t pinion with SMC 1900kv motor, SMC 4s 5200 lipo and Ko Propo servo, this truck took everything I threw at it for 30 packs over 10 days. I did manage to break both of the battery straps doing the kind of driving that should come with a " do not try this at home " sticker, the battery just slid back and forth and created a wear rub that caused the breakage, I did not run the long strap from end to end, that would have maybe stopped this happening, I also broke the front bumper after a great deal of trying silly stuff, still amazed at how well it held up, finally the grub screw came loose on the pinion which moved and cause the spur gear to strip on half of the thickness as shown on the below video. I love the truck and think it is the most amazing and bullet proof monster truck on the market, now lets hope there is a nitro MT410 monster truck kit or conversion kit in the pipe works, go on tekno do it......
Huge thanks go out to the guys at Coast 2 Coast Rc and Tekno Rc for supplying the kit and running gear for me to test it to the limits, this truck gets a big Savage Sam tick of approval.......Teknotastic |
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Originally Posted by savagesam
(Post 14773545)
Ok guys I have now put this truck through the Savage Sam ringer and the truck has passed with flying colours, I built the truck with the set up right out of the box and changed nothing what so ever, the kit went together perfect for me with each step fitting correctly.
I ran with the 100k/100k/50k diff oils, 700wt/700wt shock oils, Tekin RX8 speed controller set to max on every setting, current, punch, timing I maxed them all, 17t pinion with SMC 1900kv motor, SMC 4s 5200 lipo and Ko Propo servo, this truck took everything I threw at it for 30 packs over 10 days. I did manage to break both of the battery straps doing the kind of driving that should come with a " do not try this at home " sticker, the battery just slid back and forth and created a wear rub that caused the breakage, I did not run the long strap from end to end, that would have maybe stopped this happening, I also broke the front bumper after a great deal of trying silly stuff, still amazed at how well it held up, finally the grub screw came loose on the pinion which moved and cause the spur gear to strip on half of the thickness as shown on the below video. I love the truck and think it is the most amazing and bullet proof monster truck on the market, now lets hope there is a nitro MT410 monster truck kit or conversion kit in the pipe works, go on tekno do it......
Huge thanks go out to the guys at Coast 2 Coast Rc and Tekno Rc for supplying the kit and running gear for me to test it to the limits, this truck gets a big Savage Sam tick of approval.......Teknotastic Been giving mine a good romping as well with only broken rear body posts. If only the weather would cooperate. |
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Lets bring some "internationalization" into it ;).
@Dr_T: meine Motorenbefestigung hat exakt 8.86mm, allerdings ist diese von der Farbgebung her gleich eloxiert wie der Motorenhalter. Den Motor (T8) bring ich aber nicht rein :cry:. Tekno Support hilft allerdings weiter :nod:. Whats about springs? I have the impression, that the green springs in the rear are too soft - maybe orange would be the sweet spot? Btw, I ordered and got PL Badlands MX38 tires, the "normal" 3.8" Badlands and a pair of Arrma's dBoots Backflip tires: at least from a designers point of view, Backflips are perfect (http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXGFDF&P=7). I like the MX38 but they are quite large/wide. |
I’m a Tekno MT410 Noob and need some help please.
I’m waiting on my mt410 kit to come in. I’m really confused about what motor, pinion, and tires to order. I don’t want it to be too uncontrollable. I was thinking about Proline Badland tires (1178-11) which are 5.85 in tall x 2.72 in wide. These are close to standard truggy size and should be able to backflip ok but probably not as good as larger tires like proline trencher x’s which are 6.5” tall x 4.15” wide. I was wanting to get a 2200kv motor with 14T pinion but that might be too much power. I was thinking about this setup: --->1178-11 proline badland tires --->1900kv smc-motor --->14T pinion --->Hobbywing EZrun Max 8 v3 ESC What does everyone think? Does a smaller pinion make less torque and keep the front end down better? Would a larger pinion be better? Are the tires too small? Also will the hobbywing ESC controll a sensored motor? I guess my main concern is not being able to keep the front end down. I want it to do wheelies but not at ¼ throttle. I hope that makes sense. All suggestions are appreciated. I should also mention that I will be only running 4s lipos. And a big thanks to Pauly and Savage Sam for building this kit so quickly and posting some awesome videos and information and to everyone on this forum who have posted pictures and information. |
As far gearing to control wheelies I would gear to run cool and use the esc settings to tame it down. I prefer a taller tire, but have a set of Badlands and they are great tires. It just depends on what handling or driving style you're going after. I don't have a max 8, can't confirm if it will run sensored.
Edit: Actually on the shorter wheelbase of this truck the badlands would probably be a great choice. I had mine on a Losi 8ight buggy that I put truggy arms on and loved them for that car. |
Originally Posted by frontedge
(Post 14773965)
As far gearing to control wheelies I would gear to run cool and use the esc settings to tame it down. I prefer a taller tire, but have a set of Badlands and they are great tires. It just depends on what handling or driving style you'reoing after. I don't have a max 8, can't confirm if it will run sensored.
I could try the mt4 g3 tires on the mt410 too for now to test it. I have RC8T extenders. |
Originally Posted by gwhall
(Post 14773891)
I’m a Tekno MT410 Noob and need some help please.
I’m waiting on my mt410 kit to come in. I’m really confused about what motor, pinion, and tires to order. I don’t want it to be too uncontrollable. I was thinking about Proline Badland tires (1178-11) which are 5.85 in tall x 2.72 in wide. These are close to standard truggy size and should be able to backflip ok but probably not as good as larger tires like proline trencher x’s which are 6.5” tall x 4.15” wide. I was wanting to get a 2200kv motor with 14T pinion but that might be too much power. I was thinking about this setup: --->1178-11 proline badland tires --->1900kv smc-motor --->14T pinion --->Hobbywing EZrun Max 8 v3 ESC What does everyone think? Does a smaller pinion make less torque and keep the front end down better? Would a larger pinion be better? Are the tires too small? Also will the hobbywing ESC controll a sensored motor? I guess my main concern is not being able to keep the front end down. I want it to do wheelies but not at ¼ throttle. I hope that makes sense. All suggestions are appreciated. I should also mention that I will be only running 4s lipos. And a big thanks to Pauly and Savage Sam for building this kit so quickly and posting some awesome videos and information and to everyone on this forum who have posted pictures and information. |
Originally Posted by gwhall
(Post 14773891)
I was thinking about Proline Badland tires (1178-11) which are 5.85 in tall x 2.72 in wide. These are close to standard truggy size and should be able to backflip ok but probably not as good as larger tires like proline trencher x’s which are 6.5” tall x 4.15” wide.
I was wanting to get a 2200kv motor with 14T pinion but that might be too much power. I was thinking about this setup: --->1178-11 proline badland tires --->1900kv smc-motor --->14T pinion --->Hobbywing EZrun Max 8 v3 ESC What does everyone think? Does a smaller pinion make less torque and keep the front end down better? Would a larger pinion be better? Are the tires too small? . Your esc/motor choice seem fine. Are you just wanting to run that one because its water proof?. I posted my results above about my experience with the bigger motor. My testing is on a track if I didn't have that the 2200kv would be fine for general messing around, with a smaller pinion and lighter diff fluid. You can always tame wheelies down that way. On a side not I did manage to snap a front shock cap. The rest of the shock was fine not sure how I managed that one haha. Might have been the full speed cartwheels after a 40ft jump. I put on aluminum caps now. |
Originally Posted by zemog255
(Post 14774070)
I am happy with the smaller badlands I went with them for a few reasons. Looks: the bigger ones look really stubby on the short chassis to me. Handling and less weight to possibly break things but these trucks are tough so wouldn't worry too much about that.
Your esc/motor choice seem fine. Are you just wanting to run that one because its water proof?. I posted my results above about my experience with the bigger motor. My testing is on a track if I didn't have that the 2200kv would be fine for general messing around, with a smaller pinion and lighter diff fluid. You can always tame wheelies down that way. On a side not I did manage to snap a front shock cap. The rest of the shock was fine not sure how I managed that one haha. Might have been the full speed cartwheels after a 40ft jump. I put on aluminum caps now. I didn't think about droping the diff fluid down. I could probably drop the center diff fluid down to 50k or less if it gets too much wheelies. I mainly want to bash and be able to pull a single or double backflip. I will be running on grass mostly and some asphalt and gravels. I won't be running much on dirt and I'm not worried about handling on a track. I like to jump about 20 to 25 feet vertically and 6 to 8 feet high. That's about the extent of my bashing. A 10 to 12 feet high jump would be pretty big for me. I was thinking about going the the smaller badlands to tame it down on wheelies some. It's hard to find a happy medium between stunts and handling. I think I can find something I like with experimenting. Maybe i'm overthinking things :) |
I emailed Tekno and asked them for a general setup for the MT410. Here is one setup they have ran.
Here is an email from a Tekno rep. __________________________________________________ _____________________ Hello, We were running the proline shockwave pre-mounts from proline. As far as electronics we were using the Tekin RX8 Gen2 with the 2250KV motor and a 15 tooth pinion. The 2200KV with the castle Mamba Monster or Mamba X is also a great choice and should also be ran on a 15-16 tooth pinion. Servo is up to you but I would want something with above 300oz @ 7.4v with a speed of under .15 @ 7.4v. We used a 4s lipo battery to power our kits in the video as well. Hope this helps! __________________________________________________ _____________________ I think the proline shockwaves are these: Proline Shockwave 3.8" Mounted (#1193-13) with dimensions of 6" (152mm) tall x 3.35" (85mm) wide The description says they are lighter weight. I couldn't find if they were a medium compound. I'm assuming they are. This should be a link to them if anyone wants to check them out. https://www.prolineracing.com/tires/...tires-mounted/ |
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