Hmm, i don't get it. Why should superglueing affect chassis flex? I ever thought CF is a closed matrix except the cutting edges.

Affecting flex implies that the chassis plate would soak the glue completely up. Can't believe that. Every Tamiya car with CF parts i've done before, had sealed edges. Lack of flex was never an issue.

Wondering why Tamiya cancelled this building step now with the 419x.

Probably you are right. I have just only said that I am not surprissed becacuse it is not the first carbon chassis I have seen no glue is needed/recomended.

Please see a pic stating what I remembered:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3...GJtUy1ObWxkQ28

Regards

I usually do the bottom, but for the X and for another car I cant mention yet;) I have stopped glueing the bottom deck.

Gizmo or AMX?

I'm guessing the latter.

I think this one works :p

Im looking in getting a 419x curious as to its average weight ready to race with no option parts cheer

Electronics are going to be what determines its weight. Batteries alone can vary by 50g or more pending what brand and capacity.

I don't have an X, but my 419 was very easy to get to 1350g with typical 300g battery and a single motor fan.

I built mine with a 6000mah lipo and low profile servo 410r esc it came in at 1360 box stock added 20 grams to balance out and meet club rules

I noticed the 419's suspension arms are a new material. I assume this is a plastic that's
harder the original style but still softer than the reinforced? I've got to order some new arms for my exo6 and thought I might give these a try.

It's an idea, but rememet that the lower shock mounting holes are in different locations than the older arms

They look the same to except for the material to me? Are there some newer ones than the 54691's out now?


#54569 on the Evo6
http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/o...psk4bvm6jg.jpg

#54691 on the 419
http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/o...psnitsqsm0.jpg

The original arms are the 418 arms. These were used on the Evo6 and TRF419.

The new arms are on the TRF419X these arms look the same but the lower mounting hole is different.

Depending on the width of the front end blocks, you can swap between them for different set-ups. (I.E Swap to the 418 ones if going to D or narrower at the front).

Tamiya #54691 is the newest set. The arms have a different shock mounting position for the new super short shocks of the 419X. And they are made of a different material. I compared them from my 419X and they look 'dark grayish' to the old ones i have on my 6MS. Don't know if they are harder. Droop screws go in as hard as the old ones.

Regards.

Could you post a pic of your new arms? Tamiya must just have the wrong arm pictured for the 54691's. I'm interested to see where the lower hole is. I'm sure I could make it work either way though. Thx!

It says on the tamiyausa.com site that they are compatible with the 418 suspension cars. maybe its just a different material that is offering the different handling As it says on the site.
when I put the arms side by side I can not see any difference other then material. I didn't take calipers out to make sure but a side by side look there is no difference I could find.