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Old 05-05-2003, 01:30 PM
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Originally posted by MaddogTL
Well part of the problem is that most of the other experts that run the XXX-S here do not run all the time,most run off-road or travel allot.
James has a copy of my setup sheet that he hands out to people. Ask him for it sometime.

First thing, ditch the tires your running. The Losi car likes a firmer insert then the TC3. Open cells will never work on the car. Premounts don't work right now since the temp is up. Get you a set of HPI 33r's with a red HPI insert on 24mm rims. That alone is gonna make the car come alive.
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Old 05-05-2003, 06:13 PM
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mine weighed 54.3 at snowbirds....
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Old 05-05-2003, 06:24 PM
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Mine weighed 52.1 at the Norrca Ca. state champ's race with GP3300s,Not bad.
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Old 05-05-2003, 07:01 PM
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Yea, I had to add weight to my G+ to make 53 oz. at the ROAR Carpet Nats.
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Old 05-05-2003, 08:18 PM
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53.79 is the minimum right? How close are other cars in you guys experience. I know it's a picky question.

(Just checked: ROAR Rulebook says 1525g or 53.79285 oz.)

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Old 05-05-2003, 08:24 PM
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i thought it was just 53 oz....
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Old 05-05-2003, 09:44 PM
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The official weight they check is 53.8 oz.

The *one* exception to this was the 2003 ROAR Carpet Nationals, the first ROAR race ever run on foam tires on carpet. The minimum weight was lowered to 53 oz. to compensate.
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Old 05-05-2003, 10:24 PM
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I had to add a little over 2oz to my car to make weight at the '03 carpet nats. But, I've got the TiR screw kit which is quite a bit lighter than the stock steel screws.... Chances are, with a good electronic setup, the graphite plus will be under weight.
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Old 05-06-2003, 12:54 AM
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Originally posted by futureal
Yea, I had to add weight to my G+ to make 53 oz. at the ROAR Carpet Nats.
Futureal,

53 oz seems quite light. My XXX-s G+ is more than 54 oz, with GP3300 batteries. I'm still trying to reduce the weight of the car down to 53 oz.

What did you do make the car that light?

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Old 05-06-2003, 08:28 AM
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A couple of things you can do to reduce weight:

Use titanium hingepins and turnbuckles, change over to aluminum screws on everything, take the battery strap posts off and start taping the batteries down, that should be worth and ounce.
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Old 05-06-2003, 08:51 AM
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In terms of weight - don't forget that the GP3300's weight a full OUNCE more than the sanyo packs....


Madcap - I will bring that chassis for you on Friday!
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Old 05-06-2003, 09:13 AM
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you can run into alot of difference in weight with recievers and servos, if everything that you run is a little heavier that adds up in the end.
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Old 05-06-2003, 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by Pembalap
53 oz seems quite light. My XXX-s G+ is more than 54 oz, with GP3300 batteries. I'm still trying to reduce the weight of the car down to 53 oz.

What did you do make the car that light?
Light electronics might be the difference. I was using GP3300 cells, a Futaba S9550 servo (quite small), Novak GT7 and Novak XXtra.

I think my weight was around 52.3 oz. with the foam tires on it, before I added stuff. I used a steel lower tunnel cover from KT Hobbies to add weight, it adds approximately .6 oz. over the stock piece, directly down the center of the chassis at the lowest point. Lemieux ran one of these when he was running for Losi.
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Originally posted by futureal
Light electronics might be the difference. I was using GP3300 cells, a Futaba S9550 servo (quite small), Novak GT7 and Novak XXtra.

Lemieux ran one of these when he was running for Losi.
Paul is not runing for losi anymore?
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Originally posted by MaddogTL
Hotrod I do not have the part number but it is a losi part. It is a black plastic item with the balls in the plastic,if memory serves me it came out when the XXX first came out and I think it is still available,I can still get there here at my local hobby shop so they should still be out there somewhere.

Highwayman please do not be a smart ass,I know how to drive. When a car has a hook coming in or exiting a corner then would you say there is a major problem with the setup? Now the only way anyone at my track has been able to keep the car from having such a bad hook is to go with a very stiff front spring and a very light rear spring. When the humidity comes up that super setup that you think is perfect all of a sudden is hooking like the car is on ice.

I'm sorry for biting your head off highwayman,but you and anyone else would be very frustrated if EVERYONE says that no one can get a XXX-S to run right and keep insisiting that you change over and be like everyone else and drive a TC3. I have nothing against the TC3 but I will be damned if I'm going to follow the herd and be like everyone else.

Only recently have I got the XXX Main sedan setup book and that is helping but even with it's help I'm still facing a hugh problem,will the car run right this week or will it have a major hook or a major push?

I'm very frustrated and I aplogise for anything I said that may have been wrong.
its ok... just trying to give my 2 cents worth...

i hope you can get your G+ to work, i came from a TC3... but the G+ definitely improved my driving, its a great car
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