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Old 06-14-2010, 09:24 AM   #1156
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Hallo.

What are your thoughts on shock oil brands, specifically Muchmore shock oil? Are CsT ratings among the brands universal? I am currently using 350 Xray oil and would like to find a more economical alternative.

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Old 06-14-2010, 10:18 AM   #1157
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I have a question about the new Lipo Chassis for the 416x. Are you guys using it to just make the lower weights in the class or does it provide different handling characteristics as well over the regular 416X?

Any chance Team Tamiya will be showing up in Vegas this year for IIC?
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Old 06-15-2010, 06:17 AM   #1158
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Hello Jilles,

I have a Question regarding weight distribution:
Can you give advice for front/ Rear distribution - is it better to locate it more front or rear or is it more useful to aim an equal weight distribution (meaning 50/50)

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Old 06-15-2010, 11:01 AM   #1159
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Hello Jilles,

I have a Question regarding weight distribution:
Can you give advice for front/ Rear distribution - is it better to locate it more front or rear or is it more useful to aim an equal weight distribution (meaning 50/50)

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Which chassis
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Old 06-15-2010, 02:38 PM   #1160
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Which chassis
A SMOKEM 416LP chassis - Left to right balance is already fine but I got about 60 gr. left to 1400.

I expected it's all the same with every 4WD chassis ...
so let me express my Question another way -

Where should the center of gravity be located ??

Of course I know:
- as low as possible
- left to right balanace as equal as possible (with best local left to right balance)

but what's about front to rear balance??
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Old 06-15-2010, 04:49 PM   #1161
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Can the Orion Vortex Pro motors handle 200 F (93 C) temps on a regular basis like the LRP X12 motors? Or will it cause the motor to fail rapidly?

What is an ideal temp after a 5 minute run?

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Old 06-17-2010, 04:20 AM   #1162
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Set-up for 416WE is very similar to 416X. The WE has a little more steering because of the rear diff position. I'm sure my basic set-up will do fine. Maybe you stand-up the shocks one more hole to get it easier to drive. Thinks like tyres, tyre treatment are more important then car set-up most of the time.

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Every shock brand is different, sometimes you can have 100 - 200 different.
This is the reason all TRF driver use the same oil brand so we have always the same starting point regarding shock/oil set-up.

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The standard 416X chassis is still very competitive. However last week test for the worlds the whole team tested the new Lipo chassis with much success. The Lipo chassis is ofcourse lighter but also more narrow which allow you can run softer as the car can roll more without touching the ground. Don't know about the IIC race yet.

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It depends on how much steering you want to have. Like the WE had the battery more forward which gave a little less steering but very easy to drive. But I prefer all weight in the center line and the Lipo battery in the rear.

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The Vortex can handle temp of over 100 degree celsius. The best temp after a 5min race should be around 90 degree celsius.

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Old 06-17-2010, 05:07 AM   #1163
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Jilles,

How do you manage not getting groove inside your tire, I already set my camber to -1.

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Old 06-17-2010, 08:13 AM   #1164
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Is there a site with the latest 416X setup sheets?
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Old 06-17-2010, 08:22 AM   #1165
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Is there a site with the latest 416X setup sheets?
Fred you got a 416x huh?

This is the site I use:

http://www.petitrc.com/reglages/tami...miyaTRF416.htm

It has team setups pulled from various different locations.

Also a good resource:

http://www.thard.co.uk/viewforum.php?f=20
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:03 PM   #1166
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Jilles, helping a friend with his chassis. We are trying to create more overall flex in the chassis, and I understand there will be some slight setup adjustments to compensate, but what should I look for as far as if we get the chassis too soft or flexible? For example, will it be good in the technical section but have too much hi speed traction? Vice-versa? Will it become hard to tune or the opposite where it doesn't respond to tuning? Those are just examples of the answers I'm looking for.

Thanks in advance for the assistance. Good luck in Germany and keep the shiny side up!
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The Vortex can handle temp of over 100 degree celsius. The best temp after a 5min race should be around 90 degree celsius.

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Thanks for the information Jilles.
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Old 06-20-2010, 11:15 PM   #1169
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hey jilles between heats do you have a specific routine were you check ride height, droop or other settings or do you just leave the car as is unless you change something in the setup?

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Old 06-21-2010, 01:11 PM   #1170
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Some tyres/inserts have this problem more then others. There is not much you can do about this. Sometimes it's good to have some grooves, this means you have traction!

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Normally a softer chassis is more forgiving when you drive your car. It drives more easy. Set-up changes are more difficult to feel with a soft chassis. A stiffer chassis should be faster, especially in a highspeed section, but a stiffer chassis requires also more tuning and also is more sensitive for different track temps. Start with the topdeck, cut a sleeve in the topdeck and you will notice the differents.

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Thanks! Will do my best next week!

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Thanks! No problem!

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At a event and the car is running fine, I normally clean the car and prep. the tyres and leave it till the next heat. Sometimes I check the ride height again. For the next day I always re-check camber, droop, ride heigth and chassis screws.

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