Losi Xcelorin Brushless
#16
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Novak have said on many occasions they have nothing to do with this ESC, and are even a little sarcastic about the similarities in the design. This appears to be a legit ESC, and not an OEM job. Same with the motors. That's pretty cool these days, most new stuff is just a sticker swap. The improved appearance (no orange or purple) and extensive programability make it a pretty easy pick over the Novak, not to mention all the other great things people have said about it. The GTB is, what, 3+ years old now? It's probably the worst sensored ESC on the market right now in terms of flexibility, look and feel. It's old. Hopefully Novak has something new in the works.
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How do you guy's like the New Losi Brushless Motors compaired to Hacker,Novak Speedpassion Etc,etc,?
#18
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I can only imagine that Novak was not granted patent rights based on their designs and products, if they even applied. If that is the case, then I think legal action would be required to stop someone from copying Novak's ideas and designs and putting them out to market. I mean the Losi ESC and Motor were copied down to the switch, just minor little changes here and there.
To me, it appears that Losi is either walking all over Novak and giving them zero respect in the RC Industry, or this is a serious backdoor secret relationship that neither party is willing to admit.
If Losi was copying my idea's, I would have them in court. Seeing that Losi's product made it to the market, then either Novaks or their manufacturers have licensed Novak's idea's, or Novak is actually making the product.
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We know, BUT....
I can only imagine that Novak was not granted patent rights based on their designs and products, if they even applied. If that is the case, then I think legal action would be required to stop someone from copying Novak's ideas and designs and putting them out to market. I mean the Losi ESC and Motor were copied down to the switch, just minor little changes here and there.
To me, it appears that Losi is either walking all over Novak and giving them zero respect in the RC Industry, or this is a serious backdoor secret relationship that neither party is willing to admit.
If Losi was copying my idea's, I would have them in court. Seeing that Losi's product made it to the market, then either Novaks or their manufacturers have licensed Novak's idea's, or Novak is actually making the product.
I can only imagine that Novak was not granted patent rights based on their designs and products, if they even applied. If that is the case, then I think legal action would be required to stop someone from copying Novak's ideas and designs and putting them out to market. I mean the Losi ESC and Motor were copied down to the switch, just minor little changes here and there.
To me, it appears that Losi is either walking all over Novak and giving them zero respect in the RC Industry, or this is a serious backdoor secret relationship that neither party is willing to admit.
If Losi was copying my idea's, I would have them in court. Seeing that Losi's product made it to the market, then either Novaks or their manufacturers have licensed Novak's idea's, or Novak is actually making the product.
Not saying Losi is actually "copying" Novak's GTB, though
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If they catch on fire they must be a GTB copy but if they don't well it is a new design.
Well just having the programming card and computer interface setup make it alot different than any GTB.
The programming card setup is something that a few of the plane brushless systems have been doing for years. Very nice setup and easy to use so a nice choice for Losi to do this option.
Well just having the programming card and computer interface setup make it alot different than any GTB.
The programming card setup is something that a few of the plane brushless systems have been doing for years. Very nice setup and easy to use so a nice choice for Losi to do this option.
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If they catch on fire they must be a GTB copy but if they don't well it is a new design.
Well just having the programming card and computer interface setup make it alot different than any GTB.
The programming card setup is something that a few of the plane brushless systems have been doing for years. Very nice setup and easy to use so a nice choice for Losi to do this option.
Well just having the programming card and computer interface setup make it alot different than any GTB.
The programming card setup is something that a few of the plane brushless systems have been doing for years. Very nice setup and easy to use so a nice choice for Losi to do this option.
And the price is much cheaper than NOvak GTB combos...Horizon already ahs them listed for $229 for a nice ESC and 10.5 or 13.5 combo, where as NOvak's is $259 for their 10.5 combo
$30 cheaper, with PC interface and programming card, and much better looking for most people than the Novak colors.
#23
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Losi and novak must have some kind of relationship, because losi's rtr's come with oem esc's by novak. Looks exactly like the cheapo xrs with orange casing and all. says, 'esc made by novak for losi'. Even if theyre not identical, novak dna is in there somewhere?
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I'm thinking there should be a new standard in RC TECH posting. People should have to take a common knowledge in RC test before there allowed to post.
I do not think there is any similarity in the 2 speedos. The one is a great value doesn't thermal, more programing options. The other one NOT
I do not think there is any similarity in the 2 speedos. The one is a great value doesn't thermal, more programing options. The other one NOT
#25
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Curious, have you opened your eyes and compared the two. The switch, capacitor, case shape, heatsink, plug location, wire location, order of the wires, etc... Almost Identical. How can you say there is not any similarity?
True, they do not share the same programming features, and I bet if someone did a bit of electronic tinkering, could find out that Novak may actually program their GTB in the same manner the Losi ESC does, just that Losi opened up the programming and offers the programmer/PC link.
True, they do not share the same programming features, and I bet if someone did a bit of electronic tinkering, could find out that Novak may actually program their GTB in the same manner the Losi ESC does, just that Losi opened up the programming and offers the programmer/PC link.
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LRP Sphere TC combos- $299
Speed Passion Combos-$299
Novak Combos- $260
#30
Has anyone tried the sensored speedo with novak or speedpassion motors yet?
I picked up just the sensored speedo at losipartshouse - but i didnt grab a losi motor yet.
I picked up just the sensored speedo at losipartshouse - but i didnt grab a losi motor yet.