Go Back  R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road
Tekin RS ESC sensored >

Tekin RS ESC sensored

Community
Wiki Posts
Search

Tekin RS ESC sensored

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-24-2011, 10:44 AM
  #19771  
Tech Lord
iTrader: (103)
 
20 SMOKE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: HVR_ WEEKI WACHEE FL
Posts: 10,437
Trader Rating: 103 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by CFR
Reverse

how do you set this up so there's a delay between brake and reverse using 212 ?
http://www.teamtekin.com/hotwire_rs.html
20 SMOKE is offline  
Old 02-24-2011, 10:46 AM
  #19772  
CFR
Tech Regular
 
CFR's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 327
Default

Originally Posted by 20 SMOKE
looks like I need to use this then

BL-DL: Brushless motor, forward with reverse delay. Both forward and reverse are enabled, with a delay going from forward to reverse. This is the safest for your transmission if you wish to have reverse.
is the delay programmable?
CFR is offline  
Old 02-24-2011, 10:47 AM
  #19773  
Team EAM
iTrader: (79)
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Murfreesboro, TN
Posts: 9,701
Trader Rating: 79 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by wingracer
Hey Robert, what's going on?

A few things I noticed. Your rollout is close to what I run in 10.5. You should be able to pull another tooth or two and find a couple tenths.

I have never run a Novak motor but from what I understand, they have a lot of physical timing in them. I hear people actually run negative timing in them in boost classes like the LRP I run (-10 timing) so back the physical timing down.

Drop the boost a bit. Try about 40.

If all else fails, call me from the track and tell me what it's doing. I'll get you straight, haha.
Originally Posted by wingracer
Just looked at your set-up again. 30 deg of physical timing on a Novak motor! There's the problem. 0 or even neg for boosted classes. That will have you flying.
The LRP motor with -10 insert is still at around 30-32 degrees of timing. You can get a rough idea by looking the sensor alignment in regard to the stator. If the sensor is lined up with the edge of the stator then its right around the 30 degree mark.

N..... claims their motors are all set to 30 but they are not. They set their motors by amp draw and then put a sticker on it and call it 30 degrees due to the fact that that particular motor "should" pull x amps at x volts at 30 degrees. So if a motor has less wire on it or wound better or better rotor it will cause it to be a different amp draw. Very poor way of setting it. First thing I do with those motors is pull them apart, align the sensor then peel the sticker and realign it to where 30 degrees of physical timing is. Then it lets me compare one to the next better.

EA
EAMotorsports is offline  
Old 02-24-2011, 10:47 AM
  #19774  
Tech Lord
iTrader: (103)
 
20 SMOKE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: HVR_ WEEKI WACHEE FL
Posts: 10,437
Trader Rating: 103 (100%+)
Default

no
20 SMOKE is offline  
Old 02-24-2011, 11:00 AM
  #19775  
Tech Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
rpoage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Ct Penn. USA
Posts: 284
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by EAMotorsports
N..... claims their motors are all set to 30 but they are not. They set their motors by amp draw and then put a sticker on it and call it 30 degrees due to the fact that that particular motor "should" pull x amps at x volts at 30 degrees. So if a motor has less wire on it or wound better or better rotor it will cause it to be a different amp draw. Very poor way of setting it. First thing I do with those motors is pull them apart, align the sensor then peel the sticker and realign it to where 30 degrees of physical timing is. Then it lets me compare one to the next better.
EA
Thanks that's good information to know.
rpoage is offline  
Old 02-24-2011, 11:01 AM
  #19776  
Tech Lord
iTrader: (24)
 
wingracer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 13,738
Trader Rating: 24 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by rpoage

I'll have to email you when we are going down to Horsham next time. There is life north of the belt way? Trying to get Chuck out also.
I have been wanting to go up there but I'm out of work again

That's why you haven't heard from me to order more stuff

Let me know though, might be able to swing it.
wingracer is offline  
Old 02-24-2011, 11:05 AM
  #19777  
Team EAM
iTrader: (79)
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Murfreesboro, TN
Posts: 9,701
Trader Rating: 79 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by rpoage
Thanks that's good information to know.
I have someone that has made me a jig that you can put on the endbell of a Novak motor and set it to a true 30 degrees of physical timing so that you can have a good starting point with all of your motors. Trying to come up with a way to do it on all motors with one jig but not sure if we will be able to or not do to different mounting patterns.

EA
EAMotorsports is offline  
Old 02-24-2011, 01:16 PM
  #19778  
Tech Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Hernando, MS
Posts: 429
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default

EA is like a rocket scientist.. a car rocket scientist. Or a rocket car scientist.
Dondor is offline  
Old 02-24-2011, 04:33 PM
  #19779  
R/C Tech Elite Member
 
JayL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Ca
Posts: 3,111
Default

Originally Posted by EAMotorsports
The LRP motor with -10 insert is still at around 30-32 degrees of timing. You can get a rough idea by looking the sensor alignment in regard to the stator. If the sensor is lined up with the edge of the stator then its right around the 30 degree mark.

N..... claims their motors are all set to 30 but they are not. They set their motors by amp draw and then put a sticker on it and call it 30 degrees due to the fact that that particular motor "should" pull x amps at x volts at 30 degrees. So if a motor has less wire on it or wound better or better rotor it will cause it to be a different amp draw. Very poor way of setting it. First thing I do with those motors is pull them apart, align the sensor then peel the sticker and realign it to where 30 degrees of physical timing is. Then it lets me compare one to the next better.

EA
I can't move the sticker in VTA
JayL is offline  
Old 02-24-2011, 05:12 PM
  #19780  
Team EAM
iTrader: (79)
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Murfreesboro, TN
Posts: 9,701
Trader Rating: 79 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by JayL
I can't move the sticker in VTA
Ah...Forgot about that rule. Its dumb though as none of the N motors are set near the same on the motors by physical timing. Just amp draw. Guess you can start looking at endbells to see where they are preset in relation to the solder tabs. Ones that have more timing in them already should be better as you'll end up with more physical timing.

EA
EAMotorsports is offline  
Old 02-24-2011, 06:57 PM
  #19781  
Tech Adept
iTrader: (28)
 
speed-e's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 198
Trader Rating: 28 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by 20 SMOKE
yep, a couple of guys from my local track were using novaks and went to them at the birds and all the do is put a sticker on the rotor so it doesnt short out
I think I've suffered this problem after adjusting my motor timing. Where on the rotor is the sticker being placed?
speed-e is offline  
Old 02-24-2011, 07:44 PM
  #19782  
Tech Lord
iTrader: (103)
 
20 SMOKE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: HVR_ WEEKI WACHEE FL
Posts: 10,437
Trader Rating: 103 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by speed-e
I think I've suffered this problem after adjusting my motor timing. Where on the rotor is the sticker being placed?
dont know but i will see them in 2 weeks so i can ask
20 SMOKE is offline  
Old 02-25-2011, 03:04 AM
  #19783  
Tech Addict
iTrader: (8)
 
georgec's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: TN
Posts: 624
Trader Rating: 8 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by Dondor
EA is like a rocket scientist.. a car rocket scientist. Or a rocket car scientist.
And rocket on the track!!!!
georgec is offline  
Old 02-25-2011, 11:14 AM
  #19784  
Tech Adept
iTrader: (1)
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 248
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

Hey guys, I just recieved a used Tekin RS in the mail and it smells smokey.

Is it toasted or did this guy use the box to hold some weed?
looklikeaflip is offline  
Old 02-25-2011, 11:16 AM
  #19785  
Tech Lord
iTrader: (24)
 
wingracer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 13,738
Trader Rating: 24 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by looklikeaflip
Hey guys, I just recieved a used Tekin RS in the mail and it smells smokey.

Is it toasted or did this guy use the box to hold some weed?
Only way to find out is to try it. He might of just blown the cap, or it could be toast.
wingracer is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.