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#9661
Regards
Neal
#9663
Tech Elite
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Yes but droop is a consequence of setting downstop and ride height, it is the combination of both, so changing either changes droop. Since we always want to run at a set ride height, your downstop value can be considered a droop value too. That is my understanding anyway.
Regards
Neal
Regards
Neal
#9664
Tech Fanatic
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I think that, if remove foam from shocks, do it for all and set same rebound and uncompress speed, just shocks should work almost the same.
When you remove foam at rear, rear axle became softer and maybe this helps but I think it do wrong change for overall.
I think you should try Rick Hovart or Mister Mo setup for asphalt if you run on
rubber tires :-) (or maybe my last from Klodzko, you can found it at my signature).
Regards!
m.
#9665
Regards
Neal
#9666
hi!
I think that, if remove foam from shocks, do it for all and set same rebound and uncompress speed, just shocks should work almost the same.
When you remove foam at rear, rear axle became softer and maybe this helps but I think it do wrong change for overall.
I think you should try Rick Hovart or Mister Mo setup for asphalt if you run on
rubber tires :-) (or maybe my last from Klodzko, you can found it at my signature).
Regards!
m.
I think that, if remove foam from shocks, do it for all and set same rebound and uncompress speed, just shocks should work almost the same.
When you remove foam at rear, rear axle became softer and maybe this helps but I think it do wrong change for overall.
I think you should try Rick Hovart or Mister Mo setup for asphalt if you run on
rubber tires :-) (or maybe my last from Klodzko, you can found it at my signature).
Regards!
m.
I am running on a medium grip carpet track
#9668
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
Hi!
For me, relationship is simple :-) I set downstop on tool (like in pdf, before
I put chassis and take about 26mm for front and 25mm for rear like this:
http://abram.eu.org/files/droop_tc5/ (26 + 10 = 36mm)), now if chassis is
balanced R/L, on setup station set 5mm RH for F and 5.5 for R (or 5.5 F and 6.0 R) using spring preload (after this I measure this on shock and set this same for fron and rear (for example F 3mm, R 2.5mm), I put chassis on tires and again
take Ride Height and drop, if somethings is not good I do again job with spring preload.
Now on track if my car drive nice and easy I will not change, if need some play, I do it with spring preload more drop, or less or more RH and less drop.
Btw, drop is something nasty for me, it depends on downstop, tire diameter,
lenght of shock, spring, spring preload, shock position, sway bars ...
I always want set it like usually, 2mm F, 2.5mm R or 1.5 F and 2.0 R.
If I do something wrong just tell me I will be happy with this :-)
Regards!
m.
#9669
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
So maybe you should start from this point:
http://www.rc-setups.com/setups/170/edit
This setup help me
Regards!
m.
ps: look at properties
http://www.rc-setups.com/setups/170/edit
This setup help me
Regards!
m.
ps: look at properties
#9670
prob fixed
Last edited by JdogL; 06-02-2009 at 11:27 AM.
#9672
6 up front and 5 in rear. the deal is like this the car is super dialed as it sits. but when i try to set the spring collarso that there is tension the ride height is way off.
#9673
Tech Fanatic
iTrader: (1)
Hi!
I have 6 at F and 7 at R, shock length taken from holes is 59mm for F and R,
if chassis is over table, springs are not loose, length between blue ring and shock body is about 2.5-2.8mm, springs F ae blue and R ae silver.
So you should check length of shocks and play with downstop
Springs can't be loose when your car jump over bumps they must little compressed
Hope this helps!
Regards,
m.
#9674
i see what i did wrong. it was a stupid mistake
#9675
I guess I am lost reading all this downstop/droop thing in this thread.
Since I don't race competively due to living in the Abyss of R/C racing I never took much thought on this.
But when I mess with my car, I do the ride height first and loosen the downstops. I set the collars of my shocks to get my ride height. I measure the gap of the shock collar to shock body flange on top to ensure they are equal for L/R. I use the downstops to adjust my droop, and do not use the AE downstop gauge but use a ruler and check the lift of the chassis in mm.
The truth is, either you have the same downstop value, or the same droop value but not booth after you change ride height. So pretty much you are going to have to ignore one value if ride height does change because of tires or track conditions.
Since I don't race competively due to living in the Abyss of R/C racing I never took much thought on this.
But when I mess with my car, I do the ride height first and loosen the downstops. I set the collars of my shocks to get my ride height. I measure the gap of the shock collar to shock body flange on top to ensure they are equal for L/R. I use the downstops to adjust my droop, and do not use the AE downstop gauge but use a ruler and check the lift of the chassis in mm.
The truth is, either you have the same downstop value, or the same droop value but not booth after you change ride height. So pretty much you are going to have to ignore one value if ride height does change because of tires or track conditions.