649LikesTeam Associated B6 & B6D thread
06-07-2017, 10:46 AM - Wikipost
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Quick links to all the sections on the first page! Frequently asked questions - the most common questions you may have answered here! Aftermarket Parts - parts for the B6 and B6D Tech Tutorials- tuning guides, ball diff and shock building videos and tutorials How to's and build-specific posts Team Associated Laydown transmission conversion for B6D: Laydown conversion Instruction Manuals: B6: B6 Manual and setup sheets B6D: B6D Manual and setup sheets How to Sand and Seal carbon fiber: Sanding and sealing carbon fiber Sanding and sealing carbon fiber 2 Sanding and sealing carbon fiber 3 Sanding and sealing carbon fiber 4 Charts for Quick reference:         1) put inner bearing in hub 2) slide large shim over axle all the way up to the back of the axle 3) slide axle/bone into hub carrier 4) slide small shim onto axle through hub carrier 5) push outter bearing into hub carrier using that i'm able to put my normal male silverback gorilla wheel nut tightening job and there's no binding. in the pictures that come with the shims (the pic socket posted) it seems like they want you to slide both shims onto the axle before sliding the axle into the hub carrier and like i said, that doesn't work.  I've traditionally done the diff screw head on the left side (driver's side), but have since switched to the Right side (passenger side) regardless of transmission type (3 gear RM vs 3 gear MM and 4 gear MM). Kdub (Kurt Wenger, former AE designer) had this to say on the matter: I think I count as an authority on the matter. I always run my diff screw on the right side (when sitting "inside" the car). I take off the tire and pull the outer hinge pin to get to the adjustment screw.
The right rear is the way the AE manuals state (or used to state). It really shouldn't matter since you go around turns both left and right. 
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02-09-2018, 07:15 AM
#8581
from what I read last night the new 6.1's have a different chassis it is shorter and I think it has different holes but not sure as far as compatibility goes from old to new.
02-09-2018, 07:20 AM
#8582
Tech Regular
does anyone have any experience running the current laydown on a dusty loose outdoor track?
The lack of a gear cover on the new B6.1d has me curious if rocks and crap are going to get into the spur/pinion constantly or if the body wraps around close enough that its not needed?
The lack of a gear cover on the new B6.1d has me curious if rocks and crap are going to get into the spur/pinion constantly or if the body wraps around close enough that its not needed?
02-09-2018, 07:47 AM
#8584
To clarify, I was referring to inserts in general. The issue with the b5m hub inserts was bearing alignment. Hopefully, their quality of the new parts is good and no crunchy bearings.
- The plan to have a lockout topshaft for 17.5, with a shorter shaft....so the fan should fit on the chassis.
- The new chassis is shorter.. why? They moved the motor back. I assume the chassis is shortest to fill that gap. I think it is shorter between the back of the side rails and the tranny. The section under the motor. If the holes line up and you use the tie rod style brace, you might be able to use the b6 chassis. Just guessing.
- I am not sure it is cost effective to buy all these upgrades to convert to a b6.1. 2x shock towers, 67mm cvd, new rear hubs, new rear arms, new chassis, new gear box and top shaft. That is 100-150 in parts. Might as well build a fresh ride that that point.
*** Overall, I am really pleased with the update the kits. machines pistons, long rear shock bodies and tower, updated gear box, new rear arms, +1 steering ackerman and the new OEM Spur Guard. Even the new front shock tower protector is cool. I honestly think they did enough to justify buying a new kit. Also, oiled bearings instead of greased, is a nice touch. I really feel like AE put real effort into updating the b6.
- The plan to have a lockout topshaft for 17.5, with a shorter shaft....so the fan should fit on the chassis.
- The new chassis is shorter.. why? They moved the motor back. I assume the chassis is shortest to fill that gap. I think it is shorter between the back of the side rails and the tranny. The section under the motor. If the holes line up and you use the tie rod style brace, you might be able to use the b6 chassis. Just guessing.
- I am not sure it is cost effective to buy all these upgrades to convert to a b6.1. 2x shock towers, 67mm cvd, new rear hubs, new rear arms, new chassis, new gear box and top shaft. That is 100-150 in parts. Might as well build a fresh ride that that point.
*** Overall, I am really pleased with the update the kits. machines pistons, long rear shock bodies and tower, updated gear box, new rear arms, +1 steering ackerman and the new OEM Spur Guard. Even the new front shock tower protector is cool. I honestly think they did enough to justify buying a new kit. Also, oiled bearings instead of greased, is a nice touch. I really feel like AE put real effort into updating the b6.
02-09-2018, 08:21 AM
#8585
*** Overall, I am really pleased with the update the kits. machines pistons, long rear shock bodies and tower, updated gear box, new rear arms, +1 steering ackerman and the new OEM Spur Guard. Even the new front shock tower protector is cool. I honestly think they did enough to justify buying a new kit. Also, oiled bearings instead of greased, is a nice touch. I really feel like AE put real effort into updating the b6.
An advantage that I see with the slipper spring on the other side is that it should allow for a longer spring, and therefore a larger slipper setting setup window.
02-09-2018, 08:49 AM
#8586
They included new parts and many of the options parts we were buying in the kit. Plus v2 springs? AE upping their spring game? All good stuff.
02-09-2018, 08:58 AM
#8587
I agree with you Wildcat it does seem like a conversion kit would be so expensive with all the changes a new kit would actually be more cost effective for most. And neither seems to be priced really high. 319 for the D and think it was 329 for the regular 6.1 I did see where they said the towers were graphite instead of carbon fiber. I do think I'll be looking at one as soon as they are available, or maybe wait a bit till they get thru the first batch and get all the packaging and manual bugs worked out.
02-09-2018, 09:19 AM
#8588
02-09-2018, 10:11 AM
#8589
B6.1 upgrade parts
Going ONLY off pictures and current priced parts (until we have the manual and parts list) I have done some calculation for full conversion and also what new value the B6.1 has over B6. Attached is the detail. For full conversion it would be about $300. Maybe if you already had 67mm setup and if the current gear diff fits the new gearbox you could get close for $150. I didn't give a value to the rear shock tower as I can't see that being needed. Same could be said for the battery strap but I gave it a cost for reference.
This is just for B6 not B6D
This is just for B6 not B6D
02-09-2018, 10:15 AM
#8590
Before I put the laydown tran on the B6D, I used the exact same mount and had it right above the waterfall - directly above the motor... All I'm saying is that just because the "shaft" is now on the opposite side, there will be a way to mount a fan for your motor. Just maybe not where it is in the pic, ie., where it has traditionally been placed.
02-09-2018, 10:25 AM
#8591
Here is my B6D with laydown trans - if you save the pic, and if you can zoom in a little you see I have it mounted up just like the stock photo from Exotek...
I mounted the motor mount ring at the end of the motor just to give a little more clearance and "space". Figured I can always move it if needed, after ~7/8 race days haven't had one problem - and motor hasn't been over 90d, even on the odd occasion we ran a 6 minute main. thing works great! 
02-09-2018, 12:36 PM
#8594
I forgot OCRC gives free practice days for every $100 spent on a single purchase, so it makes as much sense for me to purchase through them anyway.
Has there been any mention if these buggies will hit shelves in March?
Good luck to everyone getting pre-orders in
02-09-2018, 12:44 PM
#8595
Oh, right.
I forgot OCRC gives free practice days for every $100 spent on a single purchase, so it makes as much sense for me to purchase through them anyway.
Has there been any mention if these buggies will hit shelves in March?
Good luck to everyone getting pre-orders in
I forgot OCRC gives free practice days for every $100 spent on a single purchase, so it makes as much sense for me to purchase through them anyway.
Has there been any mention if these buggies will hit shelves in March?
Good luck to everyone getting pre-orders in