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1) put inner bearing in hub
2) slide large shim over axle all the way up to the back of the axle
3) slide axle/bone into hub carrier
4) slide small shim onto axle through hub carrier
5) push outter bearing into hub carrier

using that i'm able to put my normal male silverback gorilla wheel nut tightening job and there's no binding. in the pictures that come with the shims (the pic socket posted) it seems like they want you to slide both shims onto the axle before sliding the axle into the hub carrier and like i said, that doesn't work.



I've traditionally done the diff screw head on the left side (driver's side), but have since switched to the Right side (passenger side) regardless of transmission type (3 gear RM vs 3 gear MM and 4 gear MM).

Kdub (Kurt Wenger, former AE designer) had this to say on the matter:

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I think I count as an authority on the matter. I always run my diff screw on the right side (when sitting "inside" the car). I take off the tire and pull the outer hinge pin to get to the adjustment screw.

The right rear is the way the AE manuals state (or used to state). It really shouldn't matter since you go around turns both left and right.
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Old 09-27-2016, 10:46 AM
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Couple questions on rear track width and ackermann angles...Noticed a lot of setup sheets people are running 1mm shims on the bellcrank and 6mm rear hexes.

For the ackermann will that just make the car react to steering input quicker?

In regards to the 6mm hexes; Is a narrower track width going to make the rear end of the car rotate easier or will it have the opposite effect?
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Traction looks to be pretty good there and saw someone traction roll too. I have also compared my jconcepts pin downs to losi ifmar pins and thought that would be an good alternative and might not require sauceing. Try cleaning the slicks with brake cleaner before sauceing. That was the hot setup at a local track here that ran ozite a little while back. Maybe try the jconcepts swaggers in the front if allowed.
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Going to be building my first car (come from drone racing) and decided on picing up the B6 (same as a friend). He swears up and down it only runs shorty batteries but on Amazon, Hobby Town, AMain, etc., the specs pages say they can run shorty, saddle, and square. He says they will fit the B6D but not the B6. My understanding is the B6D frame is essentially the same with a different powertrain config and front/rear, doesn't make sense to me.

I checked the manual and it lists "LiPo 50C 5200mAh 7.4V SQ" as being compatible and dimension-wise the square pack and saddle packs look almost identical if you double up one.
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Originally Posted by LVNeptune
Going to be building my first car (come from drone racing) and decided on picing up the B6 (same as a friend). He swears up and down it only runs shorty batteries but on Amazon, Hobby Town, AMain, etc., the specs pages say they can run shorty, saddle, and square. He says they will fit the B6D but not the B6. My understanding is the B6D frame is essentially the same with a different powertrain config and front/rear, doesn't make sense to me.

I checked the manual and it lists "LiPo 50C 5200mAh 7.4V SQ" as being compatible and dimension-wise the square pack and saddle packs look almost identical if you double up one.
The B6 has the Laydown gearbox. The motor takes up part of the Battery area, thats why you can only run shorty packs in a B6
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Old 09-27-2016, 12:24 PM
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Wow, so he was right about that. That's a bit disappointing because that means all resellers have bad specs listed including the B6 manual =/

Am I the only person to notice this/bring this up?

Also there are separate manuals for both the B6 and B6D and specifically the B6 says it can run that Reedy 5200 square pack.
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Just run shorty batteries and you'll never have to worry about anything.
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I get that but if it's being incorrectly advertised as supporting something that it can't run that's an issue in itself.
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Technically "both cars" (because it's the same car in different configurations) can run a square battery. You'll just need to run the stand up transmissions in order to do so.
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They're the same chassis. Technically you can run it on a B6..just have to change the tranny.

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I kind of figured that since they were the same. It's not a huge deal but the marketing/manuals definitely need to be updated to reflect that.
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Originally Posted by LVNeptune
I get that but if it's being incorrectly advertised as supporting something that it can't run that's an issue in itself.
You could also remove the waterfall and probably run a square pack with the lay down tranny. Never tried but probably would fit.
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You could also remove the waterfall and probably run a square pack with the lay down tranny. Never tried but probably would fit.
You can move a shorty further aft, but I don't think it gives enough room for a full square pack. I could be wrong. But seriously, just run shorty batteries. Who uses square packs?
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Why are guy insisting on using laydown trans on dirt and not stand up ?
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If anyone cares, I just got the official response from Team Associated:

"The B6 and B6d uses the shorty pack as the primary. If you want to use either Saddle or Square packs, then you will need to remove/not use the battery strap #91731 and keep the batteries in by using a good brand of 2-side tape. Like 3M!"
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Originally Posted by Rcfun96
Why are guy insisting on using laydown trans on dirt and not stand up ?
They used to say the same thing when guys ran mid motor instead of rear motor on dirt tracks...

Part of racing is pushing the envelope...
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