reyp33

Running the Tessman Leisure Hours set up.

tc5 man

Nice ! So you can use it on the stock chassis right ?

Cain

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if I am viewing the right setup:

Hot Bodies D4'13 - Ty Tessmann - Chitown Shootout - Leisure Hours - March 2016

Looks like he ran a prototype slipper. not sure how a slipper correlates to diff oil exactly, however the impression I have been given is that you run the diff pretty heavy if you don't have a slipper option.

Your diff settings of 10-50-5K I would probably change to something like:

10-200-10 to start, or even heavier in the center like 300-500k with the same front and rear diffs.

Are there any upgrades on your vehicle? (different chassis in particular?)


Looks like it. Looks like a lot of excitement about this at the track i go to as well, lots of HB413s around there.

nitro2be

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10 50 5 what I run and its great. Sounds like you need the rear to rotate for the 180 turns. I did not look up the set up sheet your using but try lowering rear camber link with 1mm spacer on inner side/tower. Will get the rear to rotate for 180 turns.

Aeb5mceracer

Hi guys i just bought a d413 and yet to run it. But im looking for setups for high bite med size clay with id say large jumps atleast for indoor.thinking about ty's reedy setup track has a big triple so im prob gonna buy vrp 1.6 or 1.7 2hole or maybe both any suggestions and advice would be appreciated

Kingkid

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Where do you get the split center diff carrier for the d413?

Cain

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Personally I would also give the 3 x 1.3 hole piston setup a look. I really liked how it performed using it front and rear. As a side benefit, the oil weights used were more common than some of the weights being used on the 2 hole 1.6 and 2 hole 1.7 setups.

This will be stocked by Amain and is made by exotek. not sure how soon, maybe a week. You can also order it direct from exotek.

DWheels

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You could try going higher in center diff maybe something closer to 70k. Going higher in rear diff weight will cause the car to rotate less not more.

On-power steering entering a corner is tricky, as all the weight is in the rear of the car leaving little to let the front tires grab. Braking just enough to get you 75% thru the corner without pushing or needing apply more throttle is probably the best. The car needs to be in a neutral stance or even slightly nose heavy to navigate a tight corner quickly.

DWheels

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VRP makes amazing pistons and they will be a great advantage towards your setup. 2x1.6 front and 2x1.7 rear is a great smooth high bite setup. 3x1.3 is also a good setup. I do bounce between 3x1.3 and 2x1.6 in the front depending on what the track conditions are or how they will be changing.

tc5 man

The stock 4 hole 1.3 pistons made to 3 hole with glueing one hole has worked fine for me indoors with B5M Purple/Yellow springs with 37w/35w jumps good could go heavyer oil up Front . Now the track i raced at has welded metal jumps so not much downside landing to them and more limp to the face of them .

21mm all around ride height and cut down on the droop with the shock rod ends to almost to the first line on them . 1mm washer underneath the Front camber link on the carrier blocks (smoothes the steering) . Long camber link on the Rear end and Front end link shorter .

10,10,000, 10k diff oils .

Note when the clay drys out you might want 7k in the rear for more grip/rotation . Had the hardest time getting side bite out of corners would actually spin out and not enough rotation on power exit with the 10k in the Rear diff i think that was the cause.

Wetter clay no problem at all buggy felt good.

Cain

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have you tried 3 x 1.4 at all DWheels? if so, what conditions you feel to use it?

Anyone know of a place or a part # for more shims in either black or orange?

DWheels

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I think I jumped in at 3x1.3 all the way around when I first built a D413. I would try out 4x1.3 would be at a weathered blown out track. Where you are looking to soak up as much bumps and inconsistencies as possible.

When picking my suspension setup I like to use the following to help me:
Springs = The level of traction the track has to offer. Stiffer springs for higher traction tracks.
Oil = Mostly based on ambient temperatures. Colder temps the lower the weight/cst; the higher the temps the higher the weight/cst.
Piston = How rough the track is and what amount of pack I am looking to achieve. Fewer and smaller holes provide a high amount of pack and for smooth tracks. Larger and many holes provide a smoother feel and for rough tracks.

tc5 man

Heres the indoor track i race at did not care for this layout that weekend though tough time getting Rear traction on power exit of the corners that day dry slick clay practice was moist.



https://youtu.be/tdAYTDiCcpQ
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Cain

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Thanks. starting to think about outdoor season so maybe 3 x 1.4 in the rear and 3 x 1.3 still in front if I don't like the feel going down more in oil weight.

the piston combo does feel great, 3 x 1.3 all around. just more consistent feel than the 2 x 1.6 and 2 x 1.7 all around.

Aeb5mceracer

Thanks everyone for the input yea im bout to order either 1.6 or 1.7 2 hole vrp piston been hearing alot of great thing with them on d413...again thanks for the advice cant wait to get d413 on the track