Xray XB4 thread
#4682
Tech Elite
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Yes 7/5.
Removing the front sway bar smooths the steering out and makes it easier to push the car hard into turns. It works really well on super high bite sugared tracks where the steering can feel too aggressive.[/QUOTE]
We don't do sugar here in Oregon... maybe due to all the hippies? But my car is so planted I need more rotation. I was going to mess with the diffs but didn't want to adjust anything for the main. My crutch is using 5/3 and finding the right tire choice. I'm going to try 7/5 and 10/5 this week.
Using the Bayer setup I never had an issue with rotation but wanted to try something new. I really like Vik's setup and I'm not using a front sway.
We have some high bite indoor clay tracks up here in Oregon so traction isn't an issue (traction rolling, wheels popping, and doing wheelies)
Removing the front sway bar smooths the steering out and makes it easier to push the car hard into turns. It works really well on super high bite sugared tracks where the steering can feel too aggressive.[/QUOTE]
We don't do sugar here in Oregon... maybe due to all the hippies? But my car is so planted I need more rotation. I was going to mess with the diffs but didn't want to adjust anything for the main. My crutch is using 5/3 and finding the right tire choice. I'm going to try 7/5 and 10/5 this week.
Using the Bayer setup I never had an issue with rotation but wanted to try something new. I really like Vik's setup and I'm not using a front sway.
We have some high bite indoor clay tracks up here in Oregon so traction isn't an issue (traction rolling, wheels popping, and doing wheelies)
#4683
Stiffer front springs 3 dot or Losi black.
Softer rear springs 1 dot or something equivalent in rate.
Remove rear spacer under diff case.
No front sway bar and 1.4mm rear or another option is run smaller rear sway bar 1.0mm and stiffer front sway bar 1.4mm. I've had good results either way. I run a 5.5 turn on med bite clay and the car has plenty of rear grip. Almost too much with the Vik setup. Had to go to 7k front diff fluid yesterday to get more off power steering.
Thanks,
Softer rear springs 1 dot or something equivalent in rate.
Remove rear spacer under diff case.
No front sway bar and 1.4mm rear or another option is run smaller rear sway bar 1.0mm and stiffer front sway bar 1.4mm. I've had good results either way. I run a 5.5 turn on med bite clay and the car has plenty of rear grip. Almost too much with the Vik setup. Had to go to 7k front diff fluid yesterday to get more off power steering.
Thanks,
Appreciate all the help
#4684
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I ran with the 3dot springs up front with AE 35wt oil Avid pistons and 1 dot rear springs with AE30 wt oil Avid pistons. I'm unsure what diff fluids are currently (XB4 14 bought used)but will try the 7/5 next time, the rear plastic plate has been removed with the +2mm rear toe plate with the 1.0 inserts in top out side corners. I'm not sure what sway bars are, but have to assume they are stock, I'll try removing the front. The tires I ran were the Sweep tendroids in supersoft compound and worked well except for my loose rear on power.
Appreciate all the help
Appreciate all the help
http://www.petitrc.com/setup/xray/se...CRC2014012426/
#4685
I ran with the 3dot springs up front with AE 35wt oil Avid pistons and 1 dot rear springs with AE30 wt oil Avid pistons. I'm unsure what diff fluids are currently (XB4 14 bought used)but will try the 7/5 next time, the rear plastic plate has been removed with the +2mm rear toe plate with the 1.0 inserts in top out side corners. I'm not sure what sway bars are, but have to assume they are stock, I'll try removing the front. The tires I ran were the Sweep tendroids in supersoft compound and worked well except for my loose rear on power.
Appreciate all the help
Appreciate all the help
#4686
If you're having trouble with rear grip, I'd start with 10/5 in the diffs, and lower the rear inserts. The only time I tried 7/5, I thought the car was too loose exiting. The 10 in the front diff slows down the outside front tire, and gives the car much more forward bite to finish the corner.
Thanks,
#4687
Yeah, if you're running the same bushings, then the +2 holders will raise the pins by 2mm. It depends if you're running the plate under the rear end or not. The standard suspension holders with the plate, is the same hinge pin height as no plate under the rear end with the +2mm suspension holders.
#4688
Yeah, if you're running the same bushings, then the +2 holders will raise the pins by 2mm. It depends if you're running the plate under the rear end or not. The standard suspension holders with the plate, is the same hinge pin height as no plate under the rear end with the +2mm suspension holders.
I have my slipper set at 6.7mm right now and wondered if going outside of the 6.3mm range in the manual is common or are there issues with the slipper being too loose as I only see warnings about gioing too tight...
Awesome thread and buggy; can't say it enough, Thanks for the great support!
#4689
I've never checked the measurement. Check it on the bench before you go out and run; hold both rear tires and punch it, and the slipper should slip plenty, and the front tires should lift off the ground just a bit.
#4690
Malin@2013/14 EOS Rd. 4 Wels, Austria 4WD Buggy C-final Leg 3
8 year old Malin running her Xray XB4 4WD in the C-final Leg 3 at the 2013/14 Euro Offroad Series Rd. 4 in Wels, Austria.
Malin had qualified as #9 for this C-final Leg 3 after 4 qualifying rounds.
She started out as #9 on the grid and made a decent start and first lap bringing her up to a 6th position. She then got passed on the 2nd lap and fell back to a 7th. She then put her head down and started the charge. Made her way up to the back wheel of the 2nd position driver and started applying the pressure. Made several attempts passing him and finally he made a mistake allowing her to pass and take the 2nd position :-)
There were 78 drivers in total (A through H finals).
She drives the white/pink/light blue Xray XB4.
Commentary by Scotty Ernst and Uwe Reinhard.
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Her setup:
Xray XB4 '14 4WD
Orca Vritra VXX speed controller
Orca TX 6.5T brushless motor
Orca Infinite Ultra 90C | 6000mAh | 7.4V saddle pack battery
Hitec HS-7940TH servo
Futaba 4PKS-R with 614FF receiver
Pro-Line Pin Point front & rear
Bent
Malin had qualified as #9 for this C-final Leg 3 after 4 qualifying rounds.
She started out as #9 on the grid and made a decent start and first lap bringing her up to a 6th position. She then got passed on the 2nd lap and fell back to a 7th. She then put her head down and started the charge. Made her way up to the back wheel of the 2nd position driver and started applying the pressure. Made several attempts passing him and finally he made a mistake allowing her to pass and take the 2nd position :-)
There were 78 drivers in total (A through H finals).
She drives the white/pink/light blue Xray XB4.
Commentary by Scotty Ernst and Uwe Reinhard.
If you are watching this from an iPhone or iPad press the banner on top of the video.
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Her setup:
Xray XB4 '14 4WD
Orca Vritra VXX speed controller
Orca TX 6.5T brushless motor
Orca Infinite Ultra 90C | 6000mAh | 7.4V saddle pack battery
Hitec HS-7940TH servo
Futaba 4PKS-R with 614FF receiver
Pro-Line Pin Point front & rear
Bent
#4691
300 shock oil = 30 wt?
Hey guys,
I'm in the midst of building my XB4. The shock oil that came with it are 450 and 300 "cSt". CST = centistroke viscosity. Is it safe to assume that the 450 cSt = 45 weight shock oil that we can buy easily in the US and the 300 cSt = 30 weight? Or am I going to have to carry both 300 cSt and 30 weight and 400 and 45 weight?
Similarly, the diff oil was 10k and 5k cSt. Same as 1000 wt and 500 wt?
I'm in the midst of building my XB4. The shock oil that came with it are 450 and 300 "cSt". CST = centistroke viscosity. Is it safe to assume that the 450 cSt = 45 weight shock oil that we can buy easily in the US and the 300 cSt = 30 weight? Or am I going to have to carry both 300 cSt and 30 weight and 400 and 45 weight?
Similarly, the diff oil was 10k and 5k cSt. Same as 1000 wt and 500 wt?
#4692
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Hey guys,
I'm in the midst of building my XB4. The shock oil that came with it are 450 and 300 "cSt". CST = centistroke viscosity. Is it safe to assume that the 450 cSt = 45 weight shock oil that we can buy easily in the US and the 300 cSt = 30 weight? Or am I going to have to carry both 300 cSt and 30 weight and 400 and 45 weight?
Similarly, the diff oil was 10k and 5k cSt. Same as 1000 wt and 500 wt?
I'm in the midst of building my XB4. The shock oil that came with it are 450 and 300 "cSt". CST = centistroke viscosity. Is it safe to assume that the 450 cSt = 45 weight shock oil that we can buy easily in the US and the 300 cSt = 30 weight? Or am I going to have to carry both 300 cSt and 30 weight and 400 and 45 weight?
Similarly, the diff oil was 10k and 5k cSt. Same as 1000 wt and 500 wt?
http://www.rcrcr.com/index.php?optio...eral&Itemid=46
No conversion needed for diff fluids. 10/5k in the kit is same as 10k/5k you can buy at your local hobby shop.
#4693
Conversion info here for shock oil.
http://www.rcrcr.com/index.php?optio...eral&Itemid=46
No conversion needed for diff fluids. 10/5k in the kit is same as 10k/5k you can buy at your local hobby shop.
http://www.rcrcr.com/index.php?optio...eral&Itemid=46
No conversion needed for diff fluids. 10/5k in the kit is same as 10k/5k you can buy at your local hobby shop.
#4694
Tech Master
iTrader: (15)
Hey guys,
I'm in the midst of building my XB4. The shock oil that came with it are 450 and 300 "cSt". CST = centistroke viscosity. Is it safe to assume that the 450 cSt = 45 weight shock oil that we can buy easily in the US and the 300 cSt = 30 weight? Or am I going to have to carry both 300 cSt and 30 weight and 400 and 45 weight?
Similarly, the diff oil was 10k and 5k cSt. Same as 1000 wt and 500 wt?
I'm in the midst of building my XB4. The shock oil that came with it are 450 and 300 "cSt". CST = centistroke viscosity. Is it safe to assume that the 450 cSt = 45 weight shock oil that we can buy easily in the US and the 300 cSt = 30 weight? Or am I going to have to carry both 300 cSt and 30 weight and 400 and 45 weight?
Similarly, the diff oil was 10k and 5k cSt. Same as 1000 wt and 500 wt?
#4695
Tech Elite
iTrader: (166)
If you're having trouble with rear grip, I'd start with 10/5 in the diffs, and lower the rear inserts. The only time I tried 7/5, I thought the car was too loose exiting. The 10 in the front diff slows down the outside front tire, and gives the car much more forward bite to finish the corner.