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Old 10-15-2012 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 9turn
The pro Drivers Can Dr. the wheels off of anything I have a friend that I let him drive my car with one set up and he was faster than I was two seconds faster with the other set up
While I see what you are saying, that wasn't my point.

My point is this: most of these pro guys are so closely matched they are looking for every tiny little thing to eek out a few tenths. In that regard they will always do what's absolutely the fastest setup regardless of how common or uncommonit is.

So I wouldn't go assuming because they can drive anything they'll be rolling with an inferior setup.
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Old 10-15-2012 | 06:28 PM
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My point is that some set up to work better for one guy has word for the other it doesn't work as good
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Old 10-15-2012 | 06:33 PM
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...what?
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Old 10-15-2012 | 06:45 PM
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Hey car that is forgiving is a good car for a newer nonexperienced guy as wear something that is very edgy can be fast for someone with more experience
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Old 10-15-2012 | 06:51 PM
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Hey car that is forgiving is a good car for a newer nonexperienced guy as wear something that is very edgy can be fast for someone with more experience
...and the point?
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Old 10-15-2012 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 9turn
My point is that some set up to work better for one guy has word for the other it doesn't work as good
Well of course, by all means drives what suits you and your style best.

I'm just saying don't assume someone else's "money" setup will be as good for you as it is for them.

I just drive what works for me. I personally have had no problems with the f/r yellow springs that I've been running for a long time now. But that suits me and the tracks I drive on.

The moral of the story is everyone uses what they use for a different reason. Experiment and find what works for you.
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Old 10-15-2012 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by heavyjeffd
I was worried about the spring rate and rear travel being all jacked up from the shorter spring.

I talked to a few of my AE pro driver friends, none of them are doing the "fronts in the rear" thing. At least none that I talked to.

The majority are running yellows F/R.
Well, I, too am running yellows F/R. I got the handling down, but I'm not 100% happy with the way the truck is jumping still. I want to give a siffer rear end a try.

Instead of the Fronts in the rear, I am thinking of just trying the red rear spring. That is the next (and last) step up in stiffness from the yellow rear, with a spring rate just a little lower than the front yellow.

I would accomodate it by increasing my shock oil by 5, effectively making it 35 front and 35 rear.

Don't know if this will work or not. Anyone have anything similar to this?
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Old 10-15-2012 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by waggaclint
Hey guys ive got a RTR SC10 4x4 with FT Kit fitted and im about to upgrade my motor/esc, ive decided to go with the hobbywing exrun 3656SD 4-Pole system and im looking for advice on what kv to go for? either 4000kv or 4700kv? i only run on a loose dirt surface and also on a outdoor half dirt half fake grass track..
Anyone??
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Old 10-15-2012 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Maddog94
Well, I, too am running yellows F/R. I got the handling down, but I'm not 100% happy with the way the truck is jumping still. I want to give a siffer rear end a try.

Instead of the Fronts in the rear, I am thinking of just trying the red rear spring. That is the next (and last) step up in stiffness from the yellow rear, with a spring rate just a little lower than the front yellow.

I would accomodate it by increasing my shock oil by 5, effectively making it 35 front and 35 rear.

Don't know if this will work or not. Anyone have anything similar to this?
Make sure what you're looking isn't more pack/dampening instead of a stiffer spring rate and more/faster rebound.
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Old 10-15-2012 | 09:37 PM
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Old 10-15-2012 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by waggaclint
Anyone??
I prefer the 4600kv motors myself, I have not run the pro4, but I do run the tenshock 4600kv. Had a 2 pole 4600 before my current one also.

So I'd say 4700

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Old 10-15-2012 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Maddog94
Well, I, too am running yellows F/R. I got the handling down, but I'm not 100% happy with the way the truck is jumping still. I want to give a siffer rear end a try.

Instead of the Fronts in the rear, I am thinking of just trying the red rear spring. That is the next (and last) step up in stiffness from the yellow rear, with a spring rate just a little lower than the front yellow.

I would accomodate it by increasing my shock oil by 5, effectively making it 35 front and 35 rear.

Don't know if this will work or not. Anyone have anything similar to this?
I have run the 35 week both front and rear and it's working good for me up but I also running the front springs
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Old 10-16-2012 | 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
Nothing wrong with , don't think there's any less stick though .

Trim method is easy & free...
Are you saying you trim .030 off the spacer to make room for another xring? So you'd have one on top of spacer and two basically stacked on botttom?
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Old 10-16-2012 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
Try using the ft springs springs on the rear and compare to the yellow or blue rear .

If you do try the ft springs in back ?

The truck will have a lot less traction and will become difficult to drive .

Making jumps will not be the problem , slipping and sliding will become a big issue instead.

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Tried them both, you have seen the conditions we run on here, using a lighter FRNT spring like a green or white worked better than the Yellow rear for overall conditions. Traction issues on the rear were the same till the M2C Rear block. The Yellow Rear spring would also seem to not give the amount of shock action needed through ripples, etc. I noticed this on carpet right away in those sections, car would become unsettled very easily, same as dirt offroad.

But, its worth trying to see the differences for yourself if in doubt. Blue Front in the rear though I think for my driving and conditions is a tad too hard except indoors carpet.

Originally Posted by drolmaeye
Yeah, of course don't make bad (or maybe incorrect?) assumptions. That's usually my goal, and that's generally the problem with assumptions -- you can't avoid making the occasional bad one.

But you've been reading this thread long enough to know why I messed this one up. We have seen several examples of people on this thread giving their opinion (either positive or negative) on a part they haven't tried. Or recommending one "setup" over the other when they have not tried both. I was just happy to see you weren't falling into that trap.
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Originally Posted by CraigMBA
Excepts that the oil provides lubrication that is ALWAYS PRESENT. Since you always run shock oil, it's a BAD TEST.

Why would you do that?
Not sure why. But, i did try it myself when I was rebuilding the shocks and the TSR o-rings were still better. Now, I didn't modify the cartridge case which I believe the same thing I was referring to when I mentioned you could tighten it too much and the xrings would "squish". But, to be honest I expected the AE rings to fit properly with the cartridge tightened down.

Got in my 40 pins for the RC Shox Center diff. Anyone got a suggestion on how many they are using on carpet? was thinking of going with 8 initially.
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Old 10-16-2012 | 08:40 AM
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