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Old 08-01-2012 | 08:38 AM
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Default ADJUSTABLE REAR TOE BLOCK FOR THE SC10 4X4



this may be the solution to the adjustable toe block that you guys are looking for.
This block is adjustable +or- 1/2 degree off stock setting allowing you to adjust from 2 1/2 degree to 3 1/2 degrees of toe.
It is also adjustable for smoother tracks just by rotating the insert 180 degrees to allow a lower ride height.
Made with 7075 aluminum like all of our toe blocks and annodized black.
the delrin inserts will probably wear out the car before needing replacing.
the hinge pins are made of 01 hardened tool steel and nichel plated.
They are also our tapered design which will allow the pin and the arm to
rotate in the bushing increasing the response time of the suspension.
part no. m2c3300
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Old 08-01-2012 | 08:55 AM
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Hey Guys, I have a fairly new SC 4x4 running the kit setup. The truck is very unstable, slides and gets loose way too easy when I hit the gas. What can I do? I have tried several different tires (suburb, double d, city blocks) with no luck. I am on the verge of selling the truck if I can't get it resolved, but would like to give it another shot or two. I am the only associated truck at my track which makes it hard... The track is hard packed clay with a layer of dust on top

Any help/advice is appreciated!
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Old 08-01-2012 | 09:01 AM
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Have you tried sweeping the track ?
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Old 08-01-2012 | 09:17 AM
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Switch to the setup in post 8 on the RCShox thread.
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Old 08-01-2012 | 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by SAMCRO
Hey Guys, I have a fairly new SC 4x4 running the kit setup. The truck is very unstable, slides and gets loose way too easy when I hit the gas. What can I do? I have tried several different tires (suburb, double d, city blocks) with no luck. I am on the verge of selling the truck if I can't get it resolved, but would like to give it another shot or two. I am the only associated truck at my track which makes it hard... The track is hard packed clay with a layer of dust on top

Any help/advice is appreciated!


Probably should just sell it...
Just kidding try the new bk setup posted on rc10.com
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Old 08-01-2012 | 09:24 AM
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The SC10 4x4 I bought cheap on eBay arrived.
I've already put the Exotek chassis on my FT and I'm loving it. Much better and I can remove the brace and fit the underbody that came with it.
It also has STRC steering parts and hubs plus mini spike tyres which seem to work well on our grass track.
It came with unused RPM arms and two shells plus 3 more pinions.
I'm sorted for spares for ages!

It has the wobbliest outdrives I've ever seen though and there are no limiters in the shocks so that confirms why.

Will need to spend some cash on rebuild parts to make it usable so much just keep it for spares(but in 3 months I've broken nothing!)
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Old 08-01-2012 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by SAMCRO
Hey Guys, I have a fairly new SC 4x4 running the kit setup. The truck is very unstable, slides and gets loose way too easy when I hit the gas. What can I do? I have tried several different tires (suburb, double d, city blocks) with no luck. I am on the verge of selling the truck if I can't get it resolved, but would like to give it another shot or two. I am the only associated truck at my track which makes it hard... The track is hard packed clay with a layer of dust on top

Any help/advice is appreciated!
The big difference for me was the RC Shox V2 Centre Diff.


Not sure if your saying you have the Team Kit? or the Factory Team kit?

So I will say:
-Add sway bars to the front and rear of the truck,
-Stiffer rear springs so the rear of the truck doesn't roll as much (I run white front springs on the rear).
-AKA Enduro's in Super Soft work great for me on the surface you're describing.
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Old 08-01-2012 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by m2cracing
have any of you guys checked out the new M2C RACING PART NO. 3300
It gives you 1/2 degree toe + or - off stock settings.
It will also allow you to adjust antisquat - 1 degree
part no. m2c3300
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great!

Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
Thing is 3 degree is all you need

more toe = slower corner speed & push


less toe = more corner speed & less traction


3 degree just right .....
Unfortunately from the sound of things, less traction in the rear appears to be a complaint that who knows, maybe having this is an option could reap some benefits.

I am sure at one time the stock toe setting AE had in the B4 and T4 was considered "All we needed" too, before further refinements showed having the option was better.

Having the option to me is what a factory team configured vehicle should provide. Fixed settings on things that in general when tuned are considered a race feature are fine for a RTR.


Went ahead and ordered the M2C stuff. Needed some Hingepins anyway for my D8 and they make quality stuff so figured why not, shipping is basically free with that 10% discount coupon.

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Old 08-01-2012 | 09:49 AM
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Cain , still 99% of the time 3 degree is the best choice , if you think having adjustable toe will help you for that 1%?


Go buy it ....
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Old 08-01-2012 | 10:18 AM
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I went + .5° months ago, liked it and went back and forth from stock to .5 a few times to make sure... still like the + .5° and am staying with it.
Tracks and driving styles will determine the correct setting for each person. Like Cain said, a race vehicle is adjustable, non adjustable one size fits all is for rtr.

WC, have you tried driving with more toe in?

Really like the m2c part, not running out to buy it, but he pins are an interesting design and you have tuning options like a race vehicle should.
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Old 08-01-2012 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Beachbuggyphil
Switch to the setup in post 8 on the RCShox thread.
I am looking at that setup. What is a "3-2 BLOCK" that it references and what comes on the truck??
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Old 08-01-2012 | 10:25 AM
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Rear toe block, 3-2 comes on it 3-3 comes with it.
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Old 08-01-2012 | 10:26 AM
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The truck comes with a 3-3 & 3-2 block to hold the rear of the rear hinge pins.
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Old 08-01-2012 | 10:30 AM
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lol, why would you ask WC that. He is blind to most things non AE. If they released different hubs or toe in blocks, he would try them and then form an opinion. The fact that the AE drivers sometimes use non AE parts is probably the only thing non AE he tries. In his mind, AE didnt release other hubs, because the truck does not need them. I personally dont think AE cares too much about the 4x4 sc class period. But that is another discussion.
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Old 08-01-2012 | 10:39 AM
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why not? True be told, 99% of the time really only matters if the track you run at has that setting work 100% of the time. If it doesn't, 99% really doesn't help you at all.

And besides, as a race vehicle, having the ability to adjust things like that should be expected and I personally am surprised considered AE did nice inserts on the RC8 for a variety of things that they didn't do anything like that on the SC104x4.

And personally I like something alloy back there holding it all together like the front. Not saying the stock rear is not durable, etc. Just after having the *joys* of the T4 front end coming apart at the plastic hingepin brace (which ironically was metal back in the day of the T3 out of the box), its a bad taste you want to not experience again. But, so far so good, Sc104x4 has been durable.

And RC Shox stuff has been money on the track I run at.
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