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Old 01-21-2013, 06:57 AM
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What shock oils are you running and what is your ambient temperature? Thanks
27.5wt all around, about 60F.
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hey everyone. excuse the question, this is all new to me. I have a 22SCT very first race was 3 days ago, and love it. Been racing for about 8 months now, so still a rookie.

Question is, I have heard the buggies are pretty unforgiving but will also make you a better driver. Thinking of getting a 22 and running stock class. both the buggy and truck class are very competitive usually enough for two races. I am looking for something exciting but don't want to get in over my head if these are truly that unforgiving.
2wd stock is a GREAT place to start racing. It's where all the old-timers like myself started way back in the late 80's / early 90's. That's all we had. All of the 4wd vehicles that people are starting with nowadays act much like a crutch and drive many people away from 2wd Mod forever - when in fact it's one of the most rewarding classes to be able to go fast in. Go for it and start with 2wd Stock. You won't regret it.
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Evil Genius jr.
27.5wt all around, about 60F.
That's a good starting point for the 2 hole 1.6mm pistons. I start around 30/30 and then adjust from there, but the surface I'm on is high bite (slicks).
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by LBR_Frank
Question is, I have heard the buggies are pretty unforgiving but will also make you a better driver. Thinking of getting a 22 and running stock class. both the buggy and truck class are very competitive usually enough for two races. I am looking for something exciting but don't want to get in over my head if these are truly that unforgiving.
A well set up 2wd buggy is a joy to drive (they handle like we wish an SCT would). They are more responsive but it is simple to dial that down if you find it difficult at first. Jump in with both feet, you won't regret it.
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Old 01-21-2013, 11:46 AM
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Thanks all for the great feedback. I am going to go for it! I'll post a pic once I have one up and running. I already have an extra 17.5 motor and ESC so looks like i'll have something to put them in!

The comment about being more of a drivers class and less bumping really got me motivated. I want to RACE.
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Old 01-21-2013, 12:11 PM
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There is still bumping in lower mains. But it's not a hackfest like short course racing. It's like comparing F1 to NASCAR. F1 there is a lot less car to lean on like NASCAR. Same goes for buggy to short course.
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Old 01-21-2013, 12:50 PM
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There is still bumping in lower mains. But it's not a hackfest like short course racing. It's like comparing F1 to NASCAR. F1 there is a lot less car to lean on like NASCAR. Same goes for buggy to short course.
That is the gospel right thar! 2wd buggy will make you a better driver. And you will not look too much like a hillbilly. Short Bus racing has that affect on some people. Just sayin'.
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Originally Posted by Davidka
A well set up 2wd buggy is a joy to drive (they handle like we wish an SCT would). They are more responsive but it is simple to dial that down if you find it difficult at first. Jump in with both feet, you won't regret it.
As soon as I started driving 2WD Buggy I found it really hard to go back to Short Course, seeing this whale of a thing roll around etc...

Love 2WD Stock.
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I am wondering if there's an updated "Dustin Evan's" 2011 Reedy Race setup floating around. Are they using the brass plate up front standard now, is he using 14g of weight on the transmission instead of 1/2 oz lead weight, what about the 1mm transmission shim? 3.0* on the toe in instead of the 3.5* on the setup sheet? Stuff like that.
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I am wondering if there's an updated "Dustin Evan's" 2011 Reedy Race setup floating around. Are they using the brass plate up front standard now, is he using 14g of weight on the transmission instead of 1/2 oz lead weight, what about the 1mm transmission shim? 3.0* on the toe in instead of the 3.5* on the setup sheet? Stuff like that.
I could always ask him the next time I see him. He will race at Unser when he is back in town but do believe he uses a little different setup than the 2011 ROAR car at this track.
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Old 01-21-2013, 06:16 PM
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I could always ask him the next time I see him. He will race at Unser when he is back in town but do believe he uses a little different setup than the 2011 ROAR car at this track.
Yes, please do. Would like to know what his WCRC or "standard" setup is now. I wouldn't think it's terribly different, but things evolve for sure. Maybe he will release a WCRC 2013 setup sheet.
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Originally Posted by gticlay
I am wondering if there's an updated "Dustin Evan's" 2011 Reedy Race setup floating around. Are they using the brass plate up front standard now, is he using 14g of weight on the transmission instead of 1/2 oz lead weight, what about the 1mm transmission shim? 3.0* on the toe in instead of the 3.5* on the setup sheet? Stuff like that.
There are some new standards that most of the team guys are running on their cars. The tranny raise isn't all the time - just when there is a need for more traction. 3 degrees of rear toe is pretty standard. The plastic kick shim with aluminum front bulkhead is pretty standard. Most are using one of the brass TLR weights on top of the tranny. 2 hole 1.6 mm pistons are pretty popular right now as well...
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There are some new standards that most of the team guys are running on their cars. The tranny raise isn't all the time - just when there is a need for more traction. 3 degrees of rear toe is pretty standard. The plastic kick shim with aluminum front bulkhead is pretty standard. Most are using one of the brass TLR weights on top of the tranny. 2 hole 1.6 mm pistons are pretty popular right now as well...
yeah the pistons make a huge difference and the steering mod made a huge difference in my buggy as well,i havent raised the tranny or added weights yet and i still have the 4 degree block still.
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Old 01-21-2013, 07:51 PM
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what is the steering mod and where can i find it on this forum? Also what is better about the 2 hole vs 4 hole piston?
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Originally Posted by dbracn
what is the steering mod and where can i find it on this forum? Also what is better about the 2 hole vs 4 hole piston?
The pistons calm the car down being the oil flows less meaning it takes some of the bouncieness out,and on the steering mod im not sure if im allowed to share because i have only seen team drivers do this.
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