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Old 02-21-2012 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by gamedog1966
I keep blowing stock bearings in all my vehicles, sc10, b4.1 and t4.1 and I would like to know what is a good brand of bearings to get for them that is very smooth and have a long life span. And I'm running on indoor clay
You may have something set up wrong. That seems excessive, I have only blown 1 rear wheel bearing in the past year running a minimum of once a week usually twice
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Old 02-21-2012 | 03:28 PM
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Can anyone give me a number value for how much thicker losi is compared to associated? I saw a chart from 2005 and read a conversation where people said losi is about 2.5wt thicker than ae. Is this pretty accurate still?
I never believed that number BS. Back in the day, the general rule of thumb was Trinity oil was thinnest, AE thickest, Losi in the middle. They were all very close. Most of us back then ran the Losi just because it was was in the middle.
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Old 02-21-2012 | 03:33 PM
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You cant tighten the rear wheel nuts too much. Regardless of the bearing spacer in the hub, you have to make sure there is some play between the axle and bearing race AFTER tightening the wheel nuts.

The cross pin in the axle will press into the wheel... the wheel presses the cone spacer against the inner race of the outer hub bearing... and pulls the axle against the inner race of the inner hub bearing.

No matter how i have shimmed it, i have never been able to just torque down the wheel nuts w/o binding the hub bearings. Ive always had to slightly back off the wheel nut to be sure there was about 1/32 of play for the axle in the rear hub bearings.
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Old 02-21-2012 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Barry
I never believed that number BS. Back in the day, the general rule of thumb was Trinity oil was thinnest, AE thickest, Losi in the middle. They were all very close. Most of us back then ran the Losi just because it was was in the middle.
And i still run Losi oil... lol
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Old 02-21-2012 | 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by t.mathewson
Can anyone give me a number value for how much thicker losi is compared to associated? I saw a chart from 2005 and read a conversation where people said losi is about 2.5wt thicker than ae. Is this pretty accurate still?
http://www.twf8.ws/new/tech/shocks/shock.htm
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Old 02-21-2012 | 04:18 PM
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i believe its still 2.5wt..

But the thing with the oils and is the consistanty of the oil batch to batch.. that was the prob.. specialwith the old trinity oils...never really new what u were gonna get... I use to run losi oil before because of the color, justmade it easy to remember what u had in ur shocks.. And they had 1/2 wts before anyone..
But i reccomend using all one brand whichever u pick..


Originally Posted by t.mathewson
Can anyone give me a number value for how much thicker losi is compared to associated? I saw a chart from 2005 and read a conversation where people said losi is about 2.5wt thicker than ae. Is this pretty accurate still?
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Old 02-21-2012 | 05:19 PM
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can someone help me. On cavs REEDY setup it said LOS 56 piston ?? I have 22 56 piston which is too big. What piston is he talking about?

Or was he testing the new BIG BORE bodys?
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Old 02-21-2012 | 05:21 PM
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the old losi pistons from the xxxt,xxxcr
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Old 02-21-2012 | 05:23 PM
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The steps between weight and manufactures are not linear. Basically the step from 20 to 25 is not the same as the step from 25 to 30. The WT numbers don't correlate to anything, except one another. They are just numbers picked out of the sky. Losi 25 wt is thicker than Losi 20 weight, and that is about all you can guarantee. Ambient tempurature also has an effect on the oil as well. Like Blue Screw posted, your best bet for accuracy is to stick with a single brand. Or switch over to an oil that is CST rated. CST or centistrokes, is an actual measurment of fluid viscosity, so as long as an oil is accurately labeled, you could in theory switch between any CST measured oil and it should yield the same handling characteristics. Now it is possible that different brands of oil, wheather labeled WT or CST, would respond differently to temperature. Like was stated earlier, the absolute best thing is to pick one brand and stay with that. Losi is nice because it is certified and colored. AE is now made by Lucas, so it is probably also very consistant. A couple drops of food coloring would make the AE oils easier to identify if you are not very good at remembering what you have in your shocks.
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Old 02-21-2012 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by idrummerboy13
how do they work compared to stock on clay which is smooth? small small bumps here and there.
not sure sir. i havent tried them.. I am testing 8th scale stuff i believe the factory guys are using GHEA2065 and GHEA2067. i will try to find out for sure..
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Old 02-21-2012 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Wild Cherry
White Teflon spacer fits(#6440) , no sanding needed.

smoother then the black spacer ...
i remember you posting that...

Tex's fix was for what we have now i guess....im ordering 6440 next time for sure...

And some Ghea pistons too...keen to try out the taper's
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Old 02-21-2012 | 05:59 PM
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Man,this thread is so coool...

As long as you get on here everyday and have a quick read to see if anything new has been discovered yor up to date

Dont need to use the search as long as you read each day,just take the bits and pieces of info you need...

Im a little bit behind the curve,just playing with kyosho springs now....but,i know my next steps are tuning the Vassa setup a little more to my liking...

Then GHEA's.....then add gold turnbuckles,and im back on the same page as you guys

Im,a month or so back
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Old 02-21-2012 | 06:04 PM
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I have been running solid mounted wing on my B4.1 for 6 months or so now i guess.
Found a few things from it...

Hard mounted
More stability at speed....
Tuning the wing angle actually works
Wings last longer
Wing mounts last around 3 months...

So,yeah it eats up wing mounts,but looks better,and feels way better...more consistent feeling at the end of fast straights,locked in almost...

Try it,its only a wing mount set
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Old 02-21-2012 | 06:04 PM
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Old 02-21-2012 | 06:46 PM
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Just pick one oil and stick with it. That way you don't have to worry about the different thicknesses...
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