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CraigMBA 12-29-2011 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by CoyoteSlash (Post 10094768)
Just finished mine too. Rubbing baaaaad.

You can fix that with a pair of duck bill nosed pliers.

http://www.rctech.net/forum/9557456-post6972.html

sniperd 12-29-2011 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by brent701 (Post 10096108)
I am sorry but with all that listed in your sig and sticking a 5T motor in a SC10. Do you really need to ask that question?

WELL I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR A GEARING SITE BUT CANNOT FIND ONE AND WITH THE 5 TURN MOTOR I HAVE NEVER RUN THAT LOW OF A TURN AND LOWEST I RUN IN 8.5 TURNS AND I RUN BARCODES ON THE CLAY TRACKS I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER DIFFERENT TYPES OF TIRES I CAN USE FOR CLAY TRACKS :sneaky:

CoyoteSlash 12-29-2011 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by CraigMBA (Post 10095525)
No. The RS spec pieces use a c clip on the axle for thrust. When you tension the wheel nut down, it puts the inner race into crush, which is no problem.

The Proline piece has no crush bearing (because of the hinge pin location) and works fine as long as you know that and tighten up the wheel nut very carefully. It is harder on bearings.



That's right.

If you use Hazard wheels, the RS stuff is fine and bolts right on. I have a years worth of Rulux wheels and tires so I need the axles to be longer so I can space them out.

The only thing wrong with the AE RS stuff is the axle is too short if you are trying to space it. And the plastic hex is kind of lame.

The only thing wrong with the Proline stuff is the axle has no way to control crush when you tighten it down, and as a result, it's kind of hard on bearings.

Why proline can't machine a notch in their axle for the c clip is beyond me. Why AE doesn't make longer axles is also beyond me. Both of those two running changes would make two perfect products, but between now and then we have to pick our poison.

Thank you Craig. That cleared it all up. I'm using Hazards so the AE kit will work great. You rock.


Originally Posted by CraigMBA (Post 10096219)
You can fix that with a pair of duck bill nosed pliers.

http://www.rctech.net/forum/9557456-post6972.html

I was doing this last night but was getting a little annoyed the FT comes with these damn springs all f*cked up like our 4x4. So I might just buy the spring kit and replace them alltogether. If that is still an issue, I'm going to hit Chris. :D

brent701 12-29-2011 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by sniperd (Post 10096511)
WELL I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR A GEARING SITE BUT CANNOT FIND ONE AND WITH THE 5 TURN MOTOR I HAVE NEVER RUN THAT LOW OF A TURN AND LOWEST I RUN IN 8.5 TURNS AND I RUN BARCODES ON THE CLAY TRACKS I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER DIFFERENT TYPES OF TIRES I CAN USE FOR CLAY TRACKS :sneaky:

I can't hear you, can you yell a little louder please?

Have you checked to see what others are running at the track? have you looked at the manuals gear chart?
also try www.rcgearhead.com for a chart

sniperd 12-29-2011 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by brent701 (Post 10096710)
I can't hear you, can you yell a little louder please?

Have you checked to see what others are running at the track? have you looked at the manuals gear chart?
also try www.rcgearhead.com for a chart

well writing capital doesnt mean im yelling im just writing capital so sorry if you thought i was yelling at you :rolleyes:

19_mustang_96 12-29-2011 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by dominick i. (Post 10095408)
I like the p/l hex setup in the front because you can adjust the spindle height.


+1.. I also run the aluminium hexs since the plastic AE ones are Junk. I had to keep shimming the plastic ones to keep the wheels tight.

CraigMBA 12-29-2011 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by sniperd (Post 10096030)
HEY GUYS JUST WONDERING WHAT GEARING SHOULD I USE IF I HAVE A LRP 5.0 TURN MOTOR ON MY SC10 ALSO WHAT TIRES DO YOU USE FOR INDOOR CLAY TRACKS?? :tire: :ha:

http://d37nnnqwv9amwr.cloudfront.net...2056471450.gif

None of the fast guys at OCRC or WC ever run more than an 8.5. If I were you I'd motor down.

I hear good things about Hot Bodies HB Beams in pink compound work well indoors in SoCal.

sniperd 12-29-2011 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by CraigMBA (Post 10097456)
http://d37nnnqwv9amwr.cloudfront.net...2056471450.gif

None of the fast guys at OCRC or WC ever run more than an 8.5. If I were you I'd motor down.

I hear good things about Hot Bodies HB Beams in pink compound work well indoors in SoCal.

ok i guess ill have to try those thanks also i just dont have the funds to buy another motor also i was just going to run about 50 epa on the throttle

KMinster 12-30-2011 03:47 AM

Hex Problems
 
Sorry to add another thread concerning the hex adapters but I've experienced a problem.

I converted my SC10 FT to the RS axle hex parts - both front and rear. In the rear, I removed the pin, removed the blue anodized plate and removed the two thin washers. Referencing the RS instruction manual on-line, I then installed the RS parts - one thin washer, new roll pin and the thick hex adapter. I installed the wheels, made sure the drive train spun smoothly and took the truck out for practice.

I run indoor carpet with medium jumps. There were a lot of trucks on the track so I got into some "rubbing" but nothing serious. I was happy with the truck's handling and I pulled it off the track and went to the pits. The right rear wheel was flopping around. I examined the right rear and found that BOTH inner and outer bearings had disintegrated - the ball cages were destroyed, the balls were gone and the races were left in the axle carrier. The left side rear axle and wheel assembly was fine. This is a brand new FT kit with only 3 race nights on it. Nothing has been abused.

Has anyone else experienced bearing problems after converting a FT truck to RS hexes? I made sure I didn't overtighten the wheel nut and - as I said above - tested to make sure the axles spun smoothly.

Any idea on what caused the bearing failures? I know the RS uses dogbones and the FT uses CVA axles. Is the axle difference causing a problem? Would it be wise to convert to the RPM axle carriers that use a larger bearing?

Thanks for the help.

brent701 12-30-2011 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by KMinster (Post 10099045)
Sorry to add another thread concerning the hex adapters but I've experienced a problem.

I converted my SC10 FT to the RS axle hex parts - both front and rear. In the rear, I removed the pin, removed the blue anodized plate and removed the two thin washers. Referencing the RS instruction manual on-line, I then installed the RS parts - one thin washer, new roll pin and the thick hex adapter. I installed the wheels, made sure the drive train spun smoothly and took the truck out for practice.

I run indoor carpet with medium jumps. There were a lot of trucks on the track so I got into some "rubbing" but nothing serious. I was happy with the truck's handling and I pulled it off the track and went to the pits. The right rear wheel was flopping around. I examined the right rear and found that BOTH inner and outer bearings had disintegrated - the ball cages were destroyed, the balls were gone and the races were left in the axle carrier. The left side rear axle and wheel assembly was fine. This is a brand new FT kit with only 3 race nights on it. Nothing has been abused.

Has anyone else experienced bearing problems after converting a FT truck to RS hexes? I made sure I didn't overtighten the wheel nut and - as I said above - tested to make sure the axles spun smoothly.

Any idea on what caused the bearing failures? I know the RS uses dogbones and the FT uses CVA axles. Is the axle difference causing a problem? Would it be wise to convert to the RPM axle carriers that use a larger bearing?

Thanks for the help.


Run two of those small shims.

I have not had that problem. The problem was having with the stock Hex for the rear was that small lip would crush and allow the axle nut to hit the non-threaded part of the axle shaft making the wheel loose on the axle. I am now running the Jconcpets 12mm alum. rear hex.

I have toasted some front bearings from over tightening the axle nut's

JustinF 12-30-2011 09:01 AM


Originally Posted by brent701 (Post 10099504)
Run two of those small shims.

I have not had that problem. The problem was having with the stock Hex for the rear was that small lip would crush and allow the axle nut to hit the non-threaded part of the axle shaft making the wheel loose on the axle. I am now running the Jconcpets 12mm alum. rear hex.

I have toasted some front bearings from over tightening the axle nut's

I have the SC10RS...is JConcepts part #2091 what I need for the rear?

EDIT: Nevermind, it's #2081, right? They don't show up on JConcept's website, but I found them on another vendor's site.

Arigato 12-30-2011 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by KMinster (Post 10099045)
Sorry to add another thread concerning the hex adapters but I've experienced a problem.

I converted my SC10 FT to the RS axle hex parts - both front and rear. In the rear, I removed the pin, removed the blue anodized plate and removed the two thin washers. Referencing the RS instruction manual on-line, I then installed the RS parts - one thin washer, new roll pin and the thick hex adapter. I installed the wheels, made sure the drive train spun smoothly and took the truck out for practice.

I run indoor carpet with medium jumps. There were a lot of trucks on the track so I got into some "rubbing" but nothing serious. I was happy with the truck's handling and I pulled it off the track and went to the pits. The right rear wheel was flopping around. I examined the right rear and found that BOTH inner and outer bearings had disintegrated - the ball cages were destroyed, the balls were gone and the races were left in the axle carrier. The left side rear axle and wheel assembly was fine. This is a brand new FT kit with only 3 race nights on it. Nothing has been abused.

Has anyone else experienced bearing problems after converting a FT truck to RS hexes? I made sure I didn't overtighten the wheel nut and - as I said above - tested to make sure the axles spun smoothly.

Any idea on what caused the bearing failures? I know the RS uses dogbones and the FT uses CVA axles. Is the axle difference causing a problem? Would it be wise to convert to the RPM axle carriers that use a larger bearing?

Thanks for the help.

I don't think it's the hexes. I just built a FTsc10 for a friend of mine and the 2nd time he ran it the same thing happened to him. He is NOT running hexes. I think it's a bad batch of bearings from ae.

CraigMBA 12-30-2011 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by KMinster (Post 10099045)
Any idea on what caused the bearing failures?

The bearing is undersized for the application. This is why most users upgrade to the aluminum hubs - not for the bling, but because it is a durability upgrade with the larger outer bearing.

http://c0456141.cdn.cloudfiles.racks.../asc9864_1.jpg

I think your issue was due to running on carpet, and the higher loads due to the elevated grip level cooked the bearing that much faster.

CraigMBA 12-30-2011 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by JustinF (Post 10100046)

EDIT: Nevermind, it's #2081, right? They don't show up on JConcept's website, but I found them on another vendor's site.

That's the one I have.

Lake Ober 12-30-2011 10:00 AM

So, I need to get an ESC and motor for my FT SC10. I am thinking one of two options and wanted to see what you guys think and if any of you have experience with a similar setup on your SC10.

Now, I've pretty much decided I am going to go with the MMP ESC. I have heard lotsss of good things about it, and you can't beat the price. However, I am not dead set on the motor yet. The owner at my LHS said if I am running a MMP ESC, then I should go with a CC 4600kv motor. So, that's one option. The other motor I am interested in is the LRP X-12 (7.5t). The reviews on it seem very good.

One other quick question... does anyone have any experience with the CC Sidewinder SCT ESC, or the Sidewinder SV2 ESC on a SC10? I see they have some decent reviews and are a great price, but I don't know what they'd be like on an SC10. I am not an expert racer or anything, but I do like my truck to be able to compete :) Thanks for the help!


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