Duratrax Evader
#736
Tech Initiate
iTrader: (1)
I have been having trouble keeping the back end planted on the local clay track with the stock duratrax rear tires; my bx would just slide around all over the place no matter what I did with the suspension, throttle, etc. So I picked up some new rims and some proline bowties in the M3 compound. Now my problem is the opposite; the prolines work so well that I can't get the rear to slide out at all, even under full throttle. It makes the car easier to drive, but it's not much fun. I'm thinking I'll just upgrade the motor since the 20T that came with the car sucks anyway. I can't quite clear the triple that everyone else seems to have no trouble with, except the slash's of course.
Any other suggestions that might work, or supplement my current plans? I suppose it would be a good idea to upgrade the front tires as well, what should I get for those?
Any other suggestions that might work, or supplement my current plans? I suppose it would be a good idea to upgrade the front tires as well, what should I get for those?
#738
Tech Elite
iTrader: (61)
When you changed rear tires you moved traction from the front to the rear. Put GOOD front tires on, the stock ones are too HARD just like the stock rear tires.
Tires are 90% of ANY setup!!!!!!!!
The BX speed control is at it's limit now. A GOOD RACE 27 will work great with your speed control. Any CO27 is good. Axiom sells good CO27's I had one when I race stock truck.
You didn't say what batteries you have. 4200 / 5000 NiHM's?
Speed Passion make a "Sport BL" system its a 13.5 >>> $100.00 complete! We run them in our Mod Slash's!!
THEN try this
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BX base setup
FRONT
A-arms just below level. (1/32 to 1/64 of a inch per side) looking from the front towards the back, of the bottom of the a-arms
Use a straight edge don't trust your eyes.
Shocks
Tower = top inner hole
A-arm = center hole (move to outer hole if needed)
Link
Tower = inner hole
Hub = 1 washer
Toe in
Toe = 0
REAR
Axles = level (looking from the rear of the BX)
Use a straight edge don't trust your eyes.
Shocks
Tower = top row center
A-arm = inner hole
Link
Tower = top inner hole
Hub = inner hole
Wheelbase
Rear hub = full rear
Slipper
Slip 1 to 1.5 RC truck length(s)
Put a second nut on to keep the setting.
Shocks
Oil = AE 30wt
Springs
Rear = AE Buggy/Truck Green
Front = stock
Spacers
Rear Inner = 2
Front Inner = 0
Camber
Front -1.5
Rear -2.0
Gearing
Spur 81 (try a 75 or 78)
IF you use a 75 center rear hubs.
Tires are 90% of ANY setup!!!!!!!!
The BX speed control is at it's limit now. A GOOD RACE 27 will work great with your speed control. Any CO27 is good. Axiom sells good CO27's I had one when I race stock truck.
You didn't say what batteries you have. 4200 / 5000 NiHM's?
Speed Passion make a "Sport BL" system its a 13.5 >>> $100.00 complete! We run them in our Mod Slash's!!
THEN try this
==========
BX base setup
FRONT
A-arms just below level. (1/32 to 1/64 of a inch per side) looking from the front towards the back, of the bottom of the a-arms
Use a straight edge don't trust your eyes.
Shocks
Tower = top inner hole
A-arm = center hole (move to outer hole if needed)
Link
Tower = inner hole
Hub = 1 washer
Toe in
Toe = 0
REAR
Axles = level (looking from the rear of the BX)
Use a straight edge don't trust your eyes.
Shocks
Tower = top row center
A-arm = inner hole
Link
Tower = top inner hole
Hub = inner hole
Wheelbase
Rear hub = full rear
Slipper
Slip 1 to 1.5 RC truck length(s)
Put a second nut on to keep the setting.
Shocks
Oil = AE 30wt
Springs
Rear = AE Buggy/Truck Green
Front = stock
Spacers
Rear Inner = 2
Front Inner = 0
Camber
Front -1.5
Rear -2.0
Gearing
Spur 81 (try a 75 or 78)
IF you use a 75 center rear hubs.
#739
Tech Initiate
iTrader: (1)
Right, I figured the fronts would need to be changed as well. As for batteries, I have a Reedy 3200 lipo. That speed passion sport brushless system is tempting, I'll have to check it out.
Would I have to change my gearing if I went to a 27T motor?
Thanks for the setup tips!
Would I have to change my gearing if I went to a 27T motor?
Thanks for the setup tips!
#740
Tech Rookie
Hi everyone i'm a beginner from the Uk, i've had my evader st rtr for a few years now but only got it working again a few weeks ago.
i had to replace the battery (mtroniks 4700mAH)to get it working and the motor (Hackmoto 15t 540) too,
I'm after some advice if i may:
Problem #1; the car takes a while to get going when wanting to go forwards from a standstill start and whiles moving, but when in reverse it picks up instantly and wheelspins! any ideas?
Problem #2; the spur gear has a few teeth missing, which new one do i need gearing wise?
Problem #3; sometimes the motor or something cuts out by itself and it wont move forwards or backwards, but the front wheels still steer. so i have to wait a while and steer the front wheels and sometimes give it a push and it will get going again, dodgy connection or esc? the motor is new and only had 3hrs use and the problem happened from new and still had the same problem with the old motor. any ideas?
Servicing; i've never serviced it! which parts should i service and how do i do carry out each task?
Handling; any ideas for a decent set-up?
Tires; the rears are bold as a baboons ass! so im guessing the fronts need replacing too, any recommendation? something cheep and cheerful
Brushless; Switching to brushless.. what do i need? any recommendations? something faster than stock but not crazy fast aka no wheelies! and how many £$£$?
i had to replace the battery (mtroniks 4700mAH)to get it working and the motor (Hackmoto 15t 540) too,
I'm after some advice if i may:
Problem #1; the car takes a while to get going when wanting to go forwards from a standstill start and whiles moving, but when in reverse it picks up instantly and wheelspins! any ideas?
Problem #2; the spur gear has a few teeth missing, which new one do i need gearing wise?
Problem #3; sometimes the motor or something cuts out by itself and it wont move forwards or backwards, but the front wheels still steer. so i have to wait a while and steer the front wheels and sometimes give it a push and it will get going again, dodgy connection or esc? the motor is new and only had 3hrs use and the problem happened from new and still had the same problem with the old motor. any ideas?
Servicing; i've never serviced it! which parts should i service and how do i do carry out each task?
Handling; any ideas for a decent set-up?
Tires; the rears are bold as a baboons ass! so im guessing the fronts need replacing too, any recommendation? something cheep and cheerful
Brushless; Switching to brushless.. what do i need? any recommendations? something faster than stock but not crazy fast aka no wheelies! and how many £$£$?
#741
Tech Elite
iTrader: (61)
Right, I figured the fronts would need to be changed as well. As for batteries, I have a Reedy 3200 lipo. That speed passion sport brushless system is tempting, I'll have to check it out.
Would I have to change my gearing if I went to a 27T motor?
Thanks for the setup tips!
Would I have to change my gearing if I went to a 27T motor?
Thanks for the setup tips!
Lipo's eat brush motors!!!!!!!!!
Forget the 27T go brushless soon.
#742
Tech Initiate
iTrader: (1)
Haha, yea, I already had a lipo charger for my heli and the evader didn't come with a battery, so I just sprang for the Reedy lipo since they're so much easier to take care of than the nimh's. Not to mention the lighter weight and better performance.
Anyway, yea, I guess I'll have to start saving for that brushless system. haha
Anyway, yea, I guess I'll have to start saving for that brushless system. haha
#743
Tech Elite
iTrader: (61)
Hi everyone i'm a beginner from the Uk, i've had my evader st rtr for a few years now but only got it working again a few weeks ago.
i had to replace the battery (mtroniks 4700mAH)to get it working and the motor (Hackmoto 15t 540) too,
I'm after some advice if i may:
Problem #1; the car takes a while to get going when wanting to go forwards from a standstill start and whiles moving, but when in reverse it picks up instantly and wheelspins! any ideas?
Your speed control/radio is setup backwards your in reverse trying to go forwards. Reverse the wires at the motor and change the throttle switch
Problem #2; the spur gear has a few teeth missing, which new one do i need gearing wise?
Try a 87 tooth
Problem #3; sometimes the motor or something cuts out by itself and it wont move forwards or backwards, but the front wheels still steer. so i have to wait a while and steer the front wheels and sometimes give it a push and it will get going again, dodgy connection or esc? the motor is new and only had 3hrs use and the problem happened from new and still had the same problem with the old motor. any ideas?
Which speed control do you have? If, it has a setup button try a fresh radio to speed control setup. Reset (pull out and push back in) the receiver connections. Make sure each wire go's into the receiver. I've have had the plug go in but one wire only go's in about 60-70%. IF you drive in a dusty area you could have dirt/dust in the receiver.
Servicing; i've never serviced it! which parts should i service and how do i do carry out each task?
General oiling of bears is the normal service
Handling; any ideas for a decent set-up?
Go here
http://www.t3t4webservice.com/Dur1.html
and
http://www.t3t4webservice.com/Dur1S.html
Tires; the rears are bold as a baboons ass! so im guessing the fronts need replacing too, any recommendation? something cheep and cheerful
Not knowing what you can get in UK and what surface you plan to drive/race on have no recommendations
Brushless; Switching to brushless.. what do i need? any recommendations? something faster than stock but not crazy fast aka no wheelies! and how many £$£$?
Any 13.5 brushless is good BUT BL's like lipo batteries.
i had to replace the battery (mtroniks 4700mAH)to get it working and the motor (Hackmoto 15t 540) too,
I'm after some advice if i may:
Problem #1; the car takes a while to get going when wanting to go forwards from a standstill start and whiles moving, but when in reverse it picks up instantly and wheelspins! any ideas?
Your speed control/radio is setup backwards your in reverse trying to go forwards. Reverse the wires at the motor and change the throttle switch
Problem #2; the spur gear has a few teeth missing, which new one do i need gearing wise?
Try a 87 tooth
Problem #3; sometimes the motor or something cuts out by itself and it wont move forwards or backwards, but the front wheels still steer. so i have to wait a while and steer the front wheels and sometimes give it a push and it will get going again, dodgy connection or esc? the motor is new and only had 3hrs use and the problem happened from new and still had the same problem with the old motor. any ideas?
Which speed control do you have? If, it has a setup button try a fresh radio to speed control setup. Reset (pull out and push back in) the receiver connections. Make sure each wire go's into the receiver. I've have had the plug go in but one wire only go's in about 60-70%. IF you drive in a dusty area you could have dirt/dust in the receiver.
Servicing; i've never serviced it! which parts should i service and how do i do carry out each task?
General oiling of bears is the normal service
Handling; any ideas for a decent set-up?
Go here
http://www.t3t4webservice.com/Dur1.html
and
http://www.t3t4webservice.com/Dur1S.html
Tires; the rears are bold as a baboons ass! so im guessing the fronts need replacing too, any recommendation? something cheep and cheerful
Not knowing what you can get in UK and what surface you plan to drive/race on have no recommendations
Brushless; Switching to brushless.. what do i need? any recommendations? something faster than stock but not crazy fast aka no wheelies! and how many £$£$?
Any 13.5 brushless is good BUT BL's like lipo batteries.
.
#744
Tech Rookie
problem #1
Ok so i switched over the connections on the motor but now forwards on the radio makes the car go backwards and visa versa, i tried adjusting the throttle on the radio but it doesn't make a difference, perhaps the throttle switch you reckon? where is it?
problem #3
the speed control is a duratrax sprint esc w/reverse. i took out all the connections on the receiver and pushed them in correctly and firmly but its still cutting out?? im stumped!
thanks for the help so far
Ok so i switched over the connections on the motor but now forwards on the radio makes the car go backwards and visa versa, i tried adjusting the throttle on the radio but it doesn't make a difference, perhaps the throttle switch you reckon? where is it?
problem #3
the speed control is a duratrax sprint esc w/reverse. i took out all the connections on the receiver and pushed them in correctly and firmly but its still cutting out?? im stumped!
thanks for the help so far
#745
Tech Rookie
I just got my evader st running a few months ago, I had all the same problems as you.
First thing you should do is re-calibrate your speed controller.
1. Turn on the esc
2. pull the radio trigger to full forward for 2 seconds
3. push the radio trigger to full reverse for 2 seconds and release
4. wait until the light turns green.
The stock ESC has a kind of launch control when accelerating. If you want to spin the tires off the launch, pull the trigger ever so slightly giving it power but don't let it move, then launch.
As for the motor cutting out, you have a bad connection somewhere. (mine was a melted tamiya connector) The ESC has lost power and it takes 5 seconds for it to self test and start back up. That is why it still steers but the movement is delayed.
First thing you should do is re-calibrate your speed controller.
1. Turn on the esc
2. pull the radio trigger to full forward for 2 seconds
3. push the radio trigger to full reverse for 2 seconds and release
4. wait until the light turns green.
The stock ESC has a kind of launch control when accelerating. If you want to spin the tires off the launch, pull the trigger ever so slightly giving it power but don't let it move, then launch.
As for the motor cutting out, you have a bad connection somewhere. (mine was a melted tamiya connector) The ESC has lost power and it takes 5 seconds for it to self test and start back up. That is why it still steers but the movement is delayed.
#746
Tech Rookie
righty o, so i tried re-calibrating the speed controller, done everything said, the green light came on and didn't fix the problem
this is deffinantly the problem, it cut out, i waited 5 seconds and it came back to life. but the tamiya connections aren't actually melted, i will replace them with deans one and hopefully it fixes the problem
thanks for the input Dr3wstx
As for the motor cutting out, you have a bad connection somewhere. (mine was a melted tamiya connector) The ESC has lost power and it takes 5 seconds for it to self test and start back up. That is why it still steers but the movement is delayed.
thanks for the input Dr3wstx
#747
Tech Rookie
^starmag...
I have the same issues. I just bought the truck last week. At first I couldn't adjust the throttle, it was reversed so I switched the motor wires. I was able to get fwd back and reverse, but there was a lag when I went fwd, and rev hooked up instantly.
Yesterday it kept shutting down, didn't know what the problem was, I wanted to smash the thing, but I later found a loose wire. I reversed my original wire configuration and wired it back to blue - blue, white - white. For some reason it works great. Fwd screams pretty good and rev has the lag. I don't know what happened?? But I'm happy with it. We'll see today if it stalls.
What motor can I upgrade to without going brushless and changing the tranny. Something that is borderline or should I just go brushless. This is all new to me, and I tried following this thread but kinda got lost with the upgrade procedure.
I have the same issues. I just bought the truck last week. At first I couldn't adjust the throttle, it was reversed so I switched the motor wires. I was able to get fwd back and reverse, but there was a lag when I went fwd, and rev hooked up instantly.
Yesterday it kept shutting down, didn't know what the problem was, I wanted to smash the thing, but I later found a loose wire. I reversed my original wire configuration and wired it back to blue - blue, white - white. For some reason it works great. Fwd screams pretty good and rev has the lag. I don't know what happened?? But I'm happy with it. We'll see today if it stalls.
What motor can I upgrade to without going brushless and changing the tranny. Something that is borderline or should I just go brushless. This is all new to me, and I tried following this thread but kinda got lost with the upgrade procedure.
#748
Tech Apprentice
tmail55 said
Speed Passion make a "Sport BL" system its a 13.5 >>> $100.00 complete! We run them in our Mod Slash's!!
Who sells the Speed Passion products?
Thanks,
M2racing
Speed Passion make a "Sport BL" system its a 13.5 >>> $100.00 complete! We run them in our Mod Slash's!!
Who sells the Speed Passion products?
Thanks,
M2racing